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	<title>Comments on: Amazon CTO Vogels: &#8220;Amazon Only Moderate Customer of AWS&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Dean Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What i learnt this morning was you cant be too stupid to still make a kazillion dollars on the Internet.

Marten Mickos - the ex ceo of MySql (now Sun employee) was an absolute disaster, he had little if no grasp on where the current state of cloud computing was.

I was out of the room when his topic started but after sitting through 15 minutes i had to google his photo on my cell to make sure that they didn&#039;t sub in a last minute replacement or something like that.

He may be a wizz with database experience I have no idea and following Werner Vogels would be a tough task for anyone as his presentation was spectacular but seriously my dog could have done a better job.

On a positive note there was an official video recording of the session they are going to email us links to so hopefully Allen will upload it to Center networks once they finish editing it, if not i will defiantely be posting it to my site.

Cheers,
Dean Collins
 www.collins.net.pr/blog
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What i learnt this morning was you cant be too stupid to still make a kazillion dollars on the Internet.</p>
<p>Marten Mickos &#8211; the ex ceo of MySql (now Sun employee) was an absolute disaster, he had little if no grasp on where the current state of cloud computing was.</p>
<p>I was out of the room when his topic started but after sitting through 15 minutes i had to google his photo on my cell to make sure that they didn&#8217;t sub in a last minute replacement or something like that.</p>
<p>He may be a wizz with database experience I have no idea and following Werner Vogels would be a tough task for anyone as his presentation was spectacular but seriously my dog could have done a better job.</p>
<p>On a positive note there was an official video recording of the session they are going to email us links to so hopefully Allen will upload it to Center networks once they finish editing it, if not i will defiantely be posting it to my site.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Dean Collins<br />
 <a href="http://www.collins.net.pr/blog" rel="nofollow">http://www.collins.net.pr/blog</a></p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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I think they sent the wrong person from Sun. He said that his group focuses on the mysql db side not the cloud side - it was a weird presentation - almost as if he was asking us to reassure him that he was right.
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the announcer said they would post audio - had i known that i would have brought my tripod and did a video...
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I think they sent the wrong person from Sun. He said that his group focuses on the mysql db side not the cloud side &#8211; it was a weird presentation &#8211; almost as if he was asking us to reassure him that he was right.
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the announcer said they would post audio &#8211; had i known that i would have brought my tripod and did a video&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW you forgot to mention that AWS now has the ability to host your content on a geographical basis.

So web developers can now host their content in Europe and get around all those nasty USA based software patent laws.

Interesting to see how Amazon are handling takedown notices as well considering prepaid credit cards are a piece of cake to obtain.


Cheers,
Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW you forgot to mention that AWS now has the ability to host your content on a geographical basis.</p>
<p>So web developers can now host their content in Europe and get around all those nasty USA based software patent laws.</p>
<p>Interesting to see how Amazon are handling takedown notices as well considering prepaid credit cards are a piece of cake to obtain.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Dean</p>
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		<title>By: Marten Mickos</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/amazon-aws-cloud-computing/comment-page-#comment-21739</link>
		<dc:creator>Marten Mickos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments on my presentation. I am sorry if it wasn&#039;t useful to you. I had been asked to do a high-level presentation for business executives - not a technical one. 

You are right that I represent only the MySQL part of Sun&#039;s business. The thought was that MySQL is one of Sun&#039;s most prolific products used in clouds (especially EC2). Sun has a separate group building a cloud offering under the Network.com name. I&#039;d be happy to hook you up with that group if you are interested in an in-depth discussion with them.

And if you have concrete suggestions on what I should change in the presentation, I am all ears.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments on my presentation. I am sorry if it wasn&#8217;t useful to you. I had been asked to do a high-level presentation for business executives &#8211; not a technical one. </p>
<p>You are right that I represent only the MySQL part of Sun&#8217;s business. The thought was that MySQL is one of Sun&#8217;s most prolific products used in clouds (especially EC2). Sun has a separate group building a cloud offering under the Network.com name. I&#8217;d be happy to hook you up with that group if you are interested in an in-depth discussion with them.</p>
<p>And if you have concrete suggestions on what I should change in the presentation, I am all ears.</p>
<p>Marten Mickos</p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Marten - my suggestion would be to talk from strength. I think you had a few times where you said you didn&#039;t know the answer. There&#039;s no reason to say that - make slides that talk about the things you know (which clearly you have a lot) - and talk from strength. Remember that event as you noted was to pitch your services - and if you want those companies to invest in Sun/MySQL you have to make sure they know you can lead them.
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Thanks for asking!
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Marten &#8211; my suggestion would be to talk from strength. I think you had a few times where you said you didn&#8217;t know the answer. There&#8217;s no reason to say that &#8211; make slides that talk about the things you know (which clearly you have a lot) &#8211; and talk from strength. Remember that event as you noted was to pitch your services &#8211; and if you want those companies to invest in Sun/MySQL you have to make sure they know you can lead them.
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Thanks for asking!</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol - now i feel bad, dont worry i&#039;m sure you are worth more than me, so feel free to laugh all the way to the bank.

I guess I was confused why someone from Sun who was presenting at a cloud computing session was surprised there were more than 20 people in the room running production apps on AWS.

Maybe it&#039;s a NY thing as well because every second startup i come across these days is building their platform using cloud based platforms.


Cheers,
Dean
BTW you cant be too bad a guy when you can take a comment  about my dog on the chin and come back with a request for constructive feedback, kudos to you.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol &#8211; now i feel bad, dont worry i&#8217;m sure you are worth more than me, so feel free to laugh all the way to the bank.</p>
<p>I guess I was confused why someone from Sun who was presenting at a cloud computing session was surprised there were more than 20 people in the room running production apps on AWS.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a NY thing as well because every second startup i come across these days is building their platform using cloud based platforms.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Dean<br />
BTW you cant be too bad a guy when you can take a comment  about my dog on the chin and come back with a request for constructive feedback, kudos to you.</p>
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