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	<title>Comments on: FriendFeed Follower Patterns Exposed: How Jason, Mike, Loic &amp; Robert Get So Many Followers So Quickly (video)</title>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-#comment-17859</link>
		<dc:creator>centernetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep - just keeps the same crew in the same seats
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep &#8211; just keeps the same crew in the same seats</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-#comment-17861</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t hate.... they obviously picked the best looking/most intelligent/funny folks to be the nine defaults. FF works! :-)

best j</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t hate&#8230;. they obviously picked the best looking/most intelligent/funny folks to be the nine defaults. FF works! :-)</p>
<p>best j</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Herbert</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-#comment-17863</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work figuring this out and proving it out! This blog post has been shared in the FriendFeed Room entitled: &quot;Social Media, Making it all WorK&quot;. http://friendfeed.com/rooms/social-media-making-it-all-work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work figuring this out and proving it out! This blog post has been shared in the FriendFeed Room entitled: &#8220;Social Media, Making it all WorK&#8221;. <a href="http://friendfeed.com/rooms/social-media-making-it-all-work" rel="nofollow">http://friendfeed.com/rooms/social-media-making-it-all-work</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack Carlson</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-#comment-17864</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Carlson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not the nine most active users on that day?  I appreciate the attention that the &quot;Fab 9&quot; have brought to FriendFeed, but I agree that those who are most active should receive notice.  True, the most active may not be posting content of value, but there&#039;s no guarantee these nine are, either.  FriendFeed should keep the recommendations fresh and use a better criteria for selecting them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not the nine most active users on that day?  I appreciate the attention that the &#8220;Fab 9&#8243; have brought to FriendFeed, but I agree that those who are most active should receive notice.  True, the most active may not be posting content of value, but there&#8217;s no guarantee these nine are, either.  FriendFeed should keep the recommendations fresh and use a better criteria for selecting them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McCusker</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-#comment-17865</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim McCusker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allen,
I&#039;d call these defaults an excellent marketing campaign from FF&#039;s standpoint.  Those default FF users pretty much represent the same echo-chamber &#039;attractors&#039; in the technology/web space.  I think it&#039;s a little disingenuous when you ask how those people because popular FF users.  It&#039;s obviously a well calculated way to market to the major technology attractors; or was that comment meant to be tongue in cheek?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allen,<br />
I&#8217;d call these defaults an excellent marketing campaign from FF&#8217;s standpoint.  Those default FF users pretty much represent the same echo-chamber &#8216;attractors&#8217; in the technology/web space.  I think it&#8217;s a little disingenuous when you ask how those people because popular FF users.  It&#8217;s obviously a well calculated way to market to the major technology attractors; or was that comment meant to be tongue in cheek?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy DeSoto</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-#comment-17866</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy DeSoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calacanis participates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calacanis participates.</p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-#comment-17867</link>
		<dc:creator>centernetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>donna martin graduates?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>donna martin graduates?</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-#comment-17870</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I guess Twitter is more of a democracy, without lists and special rooms. I only subscribe to 3 or the &quot;Big 9&quot; and I don&#039;t really give a cr@p about the techno-financial cult of personality and the race to get followers (only a fraction of whom read your posts, by the way), but I would love it if you asked Friend Feed to explain it.

I mean, it doesn&#039;t influence who I choose to follow but it is an odd way to set up the system, to have defaults. I&#039;ve tried to import all of those I follow into FF without success, it fails every single time I&#039;ve tried (which is at least a dozen times). So, until I easily move my lists over to FF, I only rarely visit FF and that is usually just to clean up my message lists and delete duplicate messages I&#039;ve sent.

The only advantage of FF for me at this point is that it seems to archive one&#039;s Tweets while Twitter only goes back 10 pages worth of entries. Sometimes I&#039;ve wanted to scroll back to see who mentioned something that I later found to be interesting.

There does seem to be more of an &quot;inner circle&quot; feel at FF but maybe that&#039;s just because I&#039;m an infrequent user of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I guess Twitter is more of a democracy, without lists and special rooms. I only subscribe to 3 or the &#8220;Big 9&#8243; and I don&#8217;t really give a cr@p about the techno-financial cult of personality and the race to get followers (only a fraction of whom read your posts, by the way), but I would love it if you asked Friend Feed to explain it.</p>
<p>I mean, it doesn&#8217;t influence who I choose to follow but it is an odd way to set up the system, to have defaults. I&#8217;ve tried to import all of those I follow into FF without success, it fails every single time I&#8217;ve tried (which is at least a dozen times). So, until I easily move my lists over to FF, I only rarely visit FF and that is usually just to clean up my message lists and delete duplicate messages I&#8217;ve sent.</p>
<p>The only advantage of FF for me at this point is that it seems to archive one&#8217;s Tweets while Twitter only goes back 10 pages worth of entries. Sometimes I&#8217;ve wanted to scroll back to see who mentioned something that I later found to be interesting.</p>
<p>There does seem to be more of an &#8220;inner circle&#8221; feel at FF but maybe that&#8217;s just because I&#8217;m an infrequent user of it.</p>
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		<title>By: S. Rahidi</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-#comment-17940</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Rahidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could have made this video 8 seconds long and been able to communicate all of the salient points.

Also - lose the glasses and hat. You&#039;re scaring your viewers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could have made this video 8 seconds long and been able to communicate all of the salient points.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; lose the glasses and hat. You&#8217;re scaring your viewers.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Rice</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-1#comment-17942</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amusingly, I avoid subscribing to the usual suspects (most of whom I know personally), and I *still* get hammered by the repurposing of their content. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amusingly, I avoid subscribing to the usual suspects (most of whom I know personally), and I *still* get hammered by the repurposing of their content.</p>
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		<title>By: patricia</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-1#comment-17944</link>
		<dc:creator>patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in all due respect, i&#039;m not sure why people would care. there are alot of bigger things going on than these kind of applications. it&#039;s only natural that users will migrate through various communications platforms. yesterday&#039;s myspace is tomorrow&#039;s facebook is today&#039;s twitter and next week&#039;s whatever...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in all due respect, i&#8217;m not sure why people would care. there are alot of bigger things going on than these kind of applications. it&#8217;s only natural that users will migrate through various communications platforms. yesterday&#8217;s myspace is tomorrow&#8217;s facebook is today&#8217;s twitter and next week&#8217;s whatever&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Cuthrell</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-1#comment-17947</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Cuthrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice... and these same popular ones when they -started- on FF had complaints about duplicates.  I don&#039;t know how to deep link to comments in FF yet but I stated as such to another person asking why -every- blog post a person makes seems to show in in the FF stream:

&quot;It&#039;s one of the passerby options in Twitter Tools for WordPress and a function of application design where aspects are not shown (i.e. private view, friends view, public view) that impact the wider audience. So, there are often unintended duplicates -- plus the Twitter update that is also a blog update that is related to another ping type service update. Early FF adopters bitched up a storm about it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice&#8230; and these same popular ones when they -started- on FF had complaints about duplicates.  I don&#8217;t know how to deep link to comments in FF yet but I stated as such to another person asking why -every- blog post a person makes seems to show in in the FF stream:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s one of the passerby options in Twitter Tools for WordPress and a function of application design where aspects are not shown (i.e. private view, friends view, public view) that impact the wider audience. So, there are often unintended duplicates &#8212; plus the Twitter update that is also a blog update that is related to another ping type service update. Early FF adopters bitched up a storm about it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Circle Jerk</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-#comment-17967</link>
		<dc:creator>Circle Jerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ye olde valley circle jerk - mike, jason, loic, robert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ye olde valley circle jerk &#8211; mike, jason, loic, robert.</p>
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		<title>By: Corvida</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-#comment-18359</link>
		<dc:creator>Corvida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just thinking a little while ago that I wish the recommendations tab would recommend other people besides the &quot;elite&quot;. I&#039;m sick of seeing them there and I&#039;m not going to subscribe to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just thinking a little while ago that I wish the recommendations tab would recommend other people besides the &#8220;elite&#8221;. I&#8217;m sick of seeing them there and I&#8217;m not going to subscribe to them.</p>
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		<title>By: mack collier</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/friendfeed-defaults/comment-page-1#comment-18362</link>
		<dc:creator>mack collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mack also misses the point when he tries to explain the follower numbers. &quot;

So the people that are subscribing to Scoble/Arrington etc on Friendfeed are NOT following them on Twitter?  Impossible for you to know that, so my guess is just as good as yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mack also misses the point when he tries to explain the follower numbers. &#8221;</p>
<p>So the people that are subscribing to Scoble/Arrington etc on Friendfeed are NOT following them on Twitter?  Impossible for you to know that, so my guess is just as good as yours.</p>
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