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Google Doesn’t Favor Google; Should Digg Stop Promoting Digg?
Last weekend the big story was whether Google favors Google within it's own tools. Dave Winer believes that Google might force Google Reader to favor blogs that use their newly acquired FeedBurner service. Discussion arose across the Web around the topic. On Jeremiah's blog, Adam Lasnik, a Google Search employee responded with:
I work in Search at Google, and I wanted to help debunk a current myth which you’ve spread above: We don’t elevante Google-hosted/created content in our search results above like content. That means we don’t push Blogger blogs about Wordpress blogs. YouTube videos above Metacafe videos. We aim to show the most relevant and important results for every query… regardless of which results are affiliated with Google properties.
Alright so let's assume that Google isn't evil and does put all sites on the same, fair, playing field. What about Digg? Should the same be expected of them? Is it ok for stories submitted by Digg team members about Digg (and the associated properties) to reach the home page?
Today Digg announced that they are changing ad partners from Google to Microsoft. A big story? Maybe. (it seems bigger than I anticipated based on the number of posts on TechMeme, of course some of them want to be listed on Digg front page!) Worth a Digg home page? Maybe. Kevin Rose posted the story to Digg and within mere minutes, the story hit the home page. It's a well known fact that any "kevinrose" submitted story will go home page. Should Kevin have submitted this? I suggest no. Should they have allowed anyone to submit this? I suggest no again. First, Digg'ers will always check the Digg blog. Second, I think its a misuse of Digg to continually promote their own interests. The Digg blog would be a great widget within the Digg site. Let users find out about it that way. Let other stories enjoy the benefits of Digg.
If we look at Revision3, it is almost a given that much of the content will go to the home page. And then we have Pownce. When Pownce launched, story after story went to the home page. Is this ok? It just doesn't sit well with me to see the Digg team use Digg to promote not only Digg but their own properties.
Just to be clear, I am not suggesting that the Digg algorithm is set to help boost internal Digg (and their affiliated sites) in any way. What I am suggesting is that Digg should not be used to promote Digg by Digg. The one element I am not 100% sure about is how far should this go. Would sites that write about Digg news events be allowed? I would think yes. Talking about Digg from outsiders is fine, internal promotion is not.
All sites should be held to the same standards, not just Google. What do you think? Is it ok for Digg to engage in behavior that we seem to agree Google should never engage in?







Digg doesn’t prevent stories from hitting the frontpage unless a site or user has been banned. They include their own site in this, which is fine with me.
Why not? If fans want to digg Digg stories, that’s their prerogative. If fans want to digg every single article Kevin Rose posts, including odd posts on how to make root beer, that’s fine as well.
Diggers love Digg, and should be allowed to promote Digg stories to the homepage. Preventing this just seems backwards. There’s even been at least one case where a digg staffer’s post was buried (Jay’s attempt at clearing up the HD-DVD code was mass buried once the mob took over the site).
I am completely okay with employees of Digg writing a story on their blog and allowing the community at large to elevate it to the front page.
In Google’s case it is different in that the public is not elevating Google properties to the top of the page, but Google itself, hypothetically.
Darren – I believe he had frankenberries this morning in case you are interested.
They are fanboys of whatever the flow is at the current time. If one bashes it, they all bash it.
You have to also realize that the fanboys would love to have digg blowup and say they caused it.
Totally agree Allen, I think Kevin shouldn’t post the stories and that would be fine.
on another note I actaully am really bored with reading about what Kevin Rose has for breakfast on techcrunch.
I used to use digg serveral times a day but I am guy that likes to join in a comment on stuff and diggs average user seems to have turned into an ass.
They seem to be mostly Apple fanboys and the posts about the new ad relationship between digg and Microsoft proved that. These idiots where going to start using ad blocking software just because the ad network was MS. What they don’t get is if they all did that then digg’s revenue stream would be fecked.
If you make a lot of money on the first startup, and you use the same money for the second one. Should that be allowed. More on this blog
If this was entirely being gamed by digg’s staff I’d have some issues with this, but the whole point of digg is the community votes up stories. Communities are inherently insular.