Comments on: Jason Calacanis on Site Framing: Facebook Bad, Digg Good

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

didnt jason leave mahalo to now produce videos?

By: Sean percival

Sean percival — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I heard mahalo 2.0 is a frame play!

By: centernetworks

centernetworks — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

you know Sean – I wouldn’t doubt it for a minute – I was almost thinking of saying that in the post but reserved the comment for later on – I won’t be briefed anyway cuz i don’t fluff him :)

By: jonathan

jonathan — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds ;-)

The real irony is that Facebook actually offers a way for publishers to opt-out of their ‘action bar’, which makes it a lot less controversial than the DiggBar IMHO (as I just wrote in a blog post of my very own).

But after all the bitching, aren’t most publishers really just going to do whatever drives them the most traffic?

By: CJ Bruce

CJ Bruce — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Normally I hate the framers, but I like the digg bar because when I click on a digg link, I can sign in and digg the article without having to leave the page. I’ve been wanting this implemented in digg forever.

By: Jay Neff

Jay Neff — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

It looks like Engadget is blocking the diggbar now?

By: jason

jason — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Wow, flattered that my lack of opinion is so important…. :-)

… I think I’m not cool with framing of websites in general. As a publisher it’s not a good trend. However, i do see the value in sometimes doing this.

We had a sidebar like the diggbar three years ago on Netscape. The goal was to show you the next five related stories. 10% of follks HATED it, 90% of folks didn’t care. We made a one-click turn off forever option.

I like how Google images does their framing when you go to the landing page of the image in question…. so, sometimes frames are ok, but most times not.

best j

By: Jason

Jason — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

No framing in Mahalo 2.0 at this point…. we’re thinking of framing our new service HaterTweets so folks can see both of your tweets on top of the stuff you’re hating on. :-)

By: centernetworks

centernetworks — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

anytime someone doesn’t fluff you or is willing to actually say the truth, they are a hater – i love how you use that term to try to deflect behavior. it’s a good technique – like a pick and roll.

By: jason

jason — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

if that’s the case why are you hating on my pick-and-hater roll at this very moment! :-p

By: centernetworks

centernetworks — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

don’t worry jason – we can still share a black and white anytime you like

By: WJS

WJS — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

It’s not your lack of opinion so much as the fact that framing becomes awesome when it’s done by a buddy, or someone from the cool tech clique. I mean, it’s not like you merely made a passing comment about Facebook’s framing. You were very direct, which is something I’ve always appreciated about you. Right or wrong, the appearance is that it’s OK because it’s Kevin Rose.

I would agree that framing is not necessarily 100% always wrong / no questions asked. But there’s no difference in what Facebook is doing versus Diggbar. Well, except Digg is placing advertising in the Diggbar. :)