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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;ve Had Enough of &#8220;Live&#8221; at Conferences</title>
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		<title>By: Robin Wauters</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-#comment-17469</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Wauters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allen, you answered your own question at the end.

&quot;If I can sit in my office and watch the conference, why spend the $2,000 to attend?&quot;

and then

&quot;Let&#039;s get back to why we go to conferences... the networking and the education.&quot;

I&#039;m a conference organizer myself, so I worry about this kind of stuff. I honestly think the majority of conference attendees pay the fee probably 80% for the networking and 20% for the content. Which is fine, if you can make sure the networking is top-notch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allen, you answered your own question at the end.</p>
<p>&#8220;If I can sit in my office and watch the conference, why spend the $2,000 to attend?&#8221;</p>
<p>and then</p>
<p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s get back to why we go to conferences&#8230; the networking and the education.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a conference organizer myself, so I worry about this kind of stuff. I honestly think the majority of conference attendees pay the fee probably 80% for the networking and 20% for the content. Which is fine, if you can make sure the networking is top-notch.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-17533</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If everyone didn&#039;t have their heads so far up their asses they would note that Web2.0 has become a parody of itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If everyone didn&#8217;t have their heads so far up their asses they would note that Web2.0 has become a parody of itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Danicki (Qik)</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-17773</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie Danicki (Qik)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, Allen. You&#039;re just as passionate about this as the people are who are telling us that they appreciate being able to watch these things live. It just depends upon the person and how relevant and worthwhile they find the content. For example, I&#039;m not a big Indiana Jones fan, so the Qiks that Variety did live from Cannes with the cast were not interesting to me apart from as a neat work-related thing. 

What our co-founder (not CEO) Bhaskar was doing was allowing the audience - both inside and outside of the room - to ask questions and give feedback on the panel via Qik&#039;s live chat feature. The remarks appear on the cell phone&#039;s screen while the event is being recorded. This integration of a back-channel to a panel is nothing new, as we&#039;ve been doing this kind of stuff at events with IRC for years, but this particular method really is. I understand why it would grate for some people. I&#039;ve personally never been a fan of the projected IRC back-channel behind the speaker(s), as I think it&#039;s distracting and unfair to the people on the dais. 

As someone said above, the reason people pay to attend conferences is by and large because of the opportunity to meet interesting people. I don&#039;t think live streaming is going to kill the conference business model, that&#039;s for sure. Indeed, Micah and Andrew (who own PDF) were using Qik themselves throughout the conference, aggregating Qik videos from attendees on the event blog, and very excited about the opportunity to extend the audience beyond those who had several hundred dollars for a ticket, flights, and hotel to be there in person. Your mileage may vary, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a big mystery why the live element is so popular and exciting to so many people. 

Oh, and that Twitter feature whereby a message is sent saying that the person is streaming live? Totally optional, controlled by the individual user, and not &quot;some Qik robot on continuous tweet&quot; as Jim Hirschfield guessed above. Just as it&#039;s up to you whether or not to watch a person&#039;s live streams, it&#039;s up to you whether or not to follow someone who tweets their live status so they can invite viewers into an event. I don&#039;t know a better way to configure this than by giving everyone a choice in the matter. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, Allen. You&#8217;re just as passionate about this as the people are who are telling us that they appreciate being able to watch these things live. It just depends upon the person and how relevant and worthwhile they find the content. For example, I&#8217;m not a big Indiana Jones fan, so the Qiks that Variety did live from Cannes with the cast were not interesting to me apart from as a neat work-related thing. </p>
<p>What our co-founder (not CEO) Bhaskar was doing was allowing the audience &#8211; both inside and outside of the room &#8211; to ask questions and give feedback on the panel via Qik&#8217;s live chat feature. The remarks appear on the cell phone&#8217;s screen while the event is being recorded. This integration of a back-channel to a panel is nothing new, as we&#8217;ve been doing this kind of stuff at events with IRC for years, but this particular method really is. I understand why it would grate for some people. I&#8217;ve personally never been a fan of the projected IRC back-channel behind the speaker(s), as I think it&#8217;s distracting and unfair to the people on the dais. </p>
<p>As someone said above, the reason people pay to attend conferences is by and large because of the opportunity to meet interesting people. I don&#8217;t think live streaming is going to kill the conference business model, that&#8217;s for sure. Indeed, Micah and Andrew (who own PDF) were using Qik themselves throughout the conference, aggregating Qik videos from attendees on the event blog, and very excited about the opportunity to extend the audience beyond those who had several hundred dollars for a ticket, flights, and hotel to be there in person. Your mileage may vary, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a big mystery why the live element is so popular and exciting to so many people. </p>
<p>Oh, and that Twitter feature whereby a message is sent saying that the person is streaming live? Totally optional, controlled by the individual user, and not &#8220;some Qik robot on continuous tweet&#8221; as Jim Hirschfield guessed above. Just as it&#8217;s up to you whether or not to watch a person&#8217;s live streams, it&#8217;s up to you whether or not to follow someone who tweets their live status so they can invite viewers into an event. I don&#8217;t know a better way to configure this than by giving everyone a choice in the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Reyes</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-#comment-17926</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically, just saw this post from a Tweet, here:

https://twitter.com/kittell/statuses/842607441

Conference/meeting organizers need to put a stop to this type of behavior.  If speakers are getting paid, in cash or in-kind or whatever, then they should be doing their JOB and focus on the task at hand.

And to echo Rick Dobbs&#039;s comment above, if you paying to be at the conference, then get the most value of your dollar and pay attention to what is being said. 

Posting online LIVE, unless that is your job, is only feeding a narcissic need for attention among people who didn&#039;t have or take the time to participate in the discussion in person. Focus your attention on those who really care or are equipped to care by being present in the same room. If you must post something, then at least be discreet about it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically, just saw this post from a Tweet, here:</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/kittell/statuses/842607441" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/kittell/statuses/842607441</a></p>
<p>Conference/meeting organizers need to put a stop to this type of behavior.  If speakers are getting paid, in cash or in-kind or whatever, then they should be doing their JOB and focus on the task at hand.</p>
<p>And to echo Rick Dobbs&#8217;s comment above, if you paying to be at the conference, then get the most value of your dollar and pay attention to what is being said. </p>
<p>Posting online LIVE, unless that is your job, is only feeding a narcissic need for attention among people who didn&#8217;t have or take the time to participate in the discussion in person. Focus your attention on those who really care or are equipped to care by being present in the same room. If you must post something, then at least be discreet about it!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Scoble</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-17930</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Scoble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For most panels, I&#039;d agree with you Allen, but this one was a panel about the &quot;Live Web&quot; and I thought it was appropriate to demonstrate how these tools work and how I use them. Many people came up to me afterward and said they didn&#039;t realize that you can search things on Summize and didn&#039;t know you can do live streaming video off of cell phones. This is always the problem with panels and conference sessions: the audiences aren&#039;t the same.

Personally I hate panel discussions, I don&#039;t think they deliver as much value as a well-thought-out speech. I probably will turn down any more of those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For most panels, I&#8217;d agree with you Allen, but this one was a panel about the &#8220;Live Web&#8221; and I thought it was appropriate to demonstrate how these tools work and how I use them. Many people came up to me afterward and said they didn&#8217;t realize that you can search things on Summize and didn&#8217;t know you can do live streaming video off of cell phones. This is always the problem with panels and conference sessions: the audiences aren&#8217;t the same.</p>
<p>Personally I hate panel discussions, I don&#8217;t think they deliver as much value as a well-thought-out speech. I probably will turn down any more of those.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Tingom</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-17931</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Tingom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I saw some of this even at SXSW. Panelists who are engaged in something on their laptops. It&#039;s like they can&#039;t see the hundred people in front of them. Doh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I saw some of this even at SXSW. Panelists who are engaged in something on their laptops. It&#8217;s like they can&#8217;t see the hundred people in front of them. Doh!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-#comment-17932</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember how we used to drift off in class and the teacher went... &lt;em&gt;&quot;You! What did I just said?&quot;&lt;/em&gt; Haha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember how we used to drift off in class and the teacher went&#8230; <em>&#8220;You! What did I just said?&#8221;</em> Haha!</p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-#comment-17933</link>
		<dc:creator>centernetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha ha
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre-Philippe Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-#comment-17934</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre-Philippe Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post by Allen Stern.

I agree him and with Mark &#039;Rizzn&#039; Hopkins that the &quot;Twitting (etc.) from the stage&quot; is most distracting, and should not be encouraged.

As far as the &quot;passive&quot; streaming of the event, this should not necessarily be distracting - unless roaming the room with a laptop! - but if this was a &quot;paying&quot; event, I understand the wish to keep such streaming under control as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post by Allen Stern.</p>
<p>I agree him and with Mark &#8216;Rizzn&#8217; Hopkins that the &#8220;Twitting (etc.) from the stage&#8221; is most distracting, and should not be encouraged.</p>
<p>As far as the &#8220;passive&#8221; streaming of the event, this should not necessarily be distracting &#8211; unless roaming the room with a laptop! &#8211; but if this was a &#8220;paying&#8221; event, I understand the wish to keep such streaming under control as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-17935</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When every technologist are scratching each other&#039;s back, attendee&#039;s/user&#039;s experience is one of the last things on their mind. Since most of them are heavily promoting these tools, how can they not be using it to &quot;prove&quot; that it&#039;s &quot;useful&quot;?

Turn it the other way round, if you were sitting through a talk and you&#039;re text-ing on your mobile frequently &lt;em&gt;(because of whatever family issues that sprung up)&lt;/em&gt;, you&#039;ll be probably be frowned upon as rude.

Perhaps this is what they meant by &lt;em&gt;&quot;changing the way we communicate&quot;&lt;/em&gt;. Fine example of what the &lt;em&gt;&quot;change&quot;&lt;/em&gt; is all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When every technologist are scratching each other&#8217;s back, attendee&#8217;s/user&#8217;s experience is one of the last things on their mind. Since most of them are heavily promoting these tools, how can they not be using it to &#8220;prove&#8221; that it&#8217;s &#8220;useful&#8221;?</p>
<p>Turn it the other way round, if you were sitting through a talk and you&#8217;re text-ing on your mobile frequently <em>(because of whatever family issues that sprung up)</em>, you&#8217;ll be probably be frowned upon as rude.</p>
<p>Perhaps this is what they meant by <em>&#8220;changing the way we communicate&#8221;</em>. Fine example of what the <em>&#8220;change&#8221;</em> is all about.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Kless</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-17936</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Kless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Allen, your photo of the panel says it all. Scoble looks like he&#039;s in his own world. I saw that the conference session was about &quot;Building and Using the World LIVE Web.&quot; Did the panel share their observations on how live broadcasting affects the political process with any substance? You said the CoverItLive CEO had no electronics on the stage and was the most engaged. Most likely because he had no distractions. 

Thanks for sharing your perspective, I agree with you on all counts. I think the &quot;live&quot; has a place if it&#039;s a demo session but can be a big distraction during a discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Allen, your photo of the panel says it all. Scoble looks like he&#8217;s in his own world. I saw that the conference session was about &#8220;Building and Using the World LIVE Web.&#8221; Did the panel share their observations on how live broadcasting affects the political process with any substance? You said the CoverItLive CEO had no electronics on the stage and was the most engaged. Most likely because he had no distractions. </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your perspective, I agree with you on all counts. I think the &#8220;live&#8221; has a place if it&#8217;s a demo session but can be a big distraction during a discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis McDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-18292</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you. Just because a technology is available doesn&#039;t mean you have to use it. Most of the people doing these &quot;live&quot; streams are generating stuff that&#039;s very amateurish and not thought through very well. I&#039;ll come back later for a thoughtful report and will look at the video if I&#039;m really interested. (Related to this is a blog post I wrote a couple of weeks ago titled &quot;One Thing I Don&#039;t Like About Twitter&quot; http://www.ddmcd.com/one_thing.html.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. Just because a technology is available doesn&#8217;t mean you have to use it. Most of the people doing these &#8220;live&#8221; streams are generating stuff that&#8217;s very amateurish and not thought through very well. I&#8217;ll come back later for a thoughtful report and will look at the video if I&#8217;m really interested. (Related to this is a blog post I wrote a couple of weeks ago titled &#8220;One Thing I Don&#8217;t Like About Twitter&#8221; <a href="http://www.ddmcd.com/one_thing.html.)" rel="nofollow">http://www.ddmcd.com/one_thing.html.)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eric Rice</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-18326</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When podcasting was in its infancy, a much heralded tenet for the format was the lack of appointment-based viewing, because it was on-demand media. There&#039;s no such thing as time-shifted re: podcasting, because the medium isn&#039;t live. We NEED time-shifting for all the live stuff.

Live isn&#039;t bad, however. Good for those present to participate (if they can schedule it), and good (if edited) for those to access later (post-conversation). 

Does this mean the Cluetrain is applicable to real-time? Well, no, but if you DO make the appointment, you can control/influence/participate in the conversation right then and there.

I don&#039;t have the bandwidth to be anyone&#039;s groupie. I refuse to say &#039;how high&#039; when you say &#039;jump! (come chat now!)&#039; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When podcasting was in its infancy, a much heralded tenet for the format was the lack of appointment-based viewing, because it was on-demand media. There&#8217;s no such thing as time-shifted re: podcasting, because the medium isn&#8217;t live. We NEED time-shifting for all the live stuff.</p>
<p>Live isn&#8217;t bad, however. Good for those present to participate (if they can schedule it), and good (if edited) for those to access later (post-conversation). </p>
<p>Does this mean the Cluetrain is applicable to real-time? Well, no, but if you DO make the appointment, you can control/influence/participate in the conversation right then and there.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the bandwidth to be anyone&#8217;s groupie. I refuse to say &#8216;how high&#8217; when you say &#8216;jump! (come chat now!)&#8217; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-#comment-18407</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I draw a distinction.  Checking up on Twitter, Friendfeed or any other text service is one thing - very distracting. 

Turning on a camera and streaming an event is another.

I don&#039;t see anything wrong with videoing the event, either from the audience or the panel, particularly since no conference i&#039;ve been to has understood the market or value to the general wilds of the internet of setting up a virtual conference experience.

Our liveblogged conference keynotes and panels are some of the most popular content we&#039;ve had on the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I draw a distinction.  Checking up on Twitter, Friendfeed or any other text service is one thing &#8211; very distracting. </p>
<p>Turning on a camera and streaming an event is another.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with videoing the event, either from the audience or the panel, particularly since no conference i&#8217;ve been to has understood the market or value to the general wilds of the internet of setting up a virtual conference experience.</p>
<p>Our liveblogged conference keynotes and panels are some of the most popular content we&#8217;ve had on the site.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dorman</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/live-streaming-broadcasting-conferences/comment-page-#comment-18417</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah that clicking every 2-3 seconds would be a pain for me also.

Great post!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah that clicking every 2-3 seconds would be a pain for me also.</p>
<p>Great post!!!</p>
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