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Can You Shame a Company Into Supporting OpenID?
We covered the launch of OpenID 2.0 last week along a massive video recap from the Internet Identity Workshop. This morning, Chris Messina, one of the loudest about OpenID has created his list of sh**, hit and wish for 2008.
- For Sh** he calls out: Digg, Netvibes, Last.fm, PBWiki, MyBlogLog, Technorati and Wikipedia.
- For Hit he calls out: Satisfaction, Twitter, Drupal, Plazes, Pounce, Ning, LinkedIn, SlideShare, TripIt, Blip.TV, Viddler, YouTube, Wordpress and Pandora.
- For Wish he calls out: Facebook, Yahoo, Microsoft, Google, Mozilla, MySpace, Hi5, Bebo, Orkut, and Adobe.
Basically any internet company that has more than 100 users he has put in one of three categories. Just a thought but will companies start supporting OpenID when there's a reason for them to? Sure Janrain told me that it's easier to implement OpenID than create an authentication scheme but what startup today would go OpenID only? Are there any? I certainly haven't come across any hard reasons yet. This is not to say I don't like OpenID, I do. Having one authentication for every startup I review would save me hours per week and frustration as well.
OpenID needs marketing first, outside of the tight MessinaCircle®, I don't hear OpenID discussed on a regular basis. We need to get the conversation moving past the circle and then it might have a chance. That or Google says only OpenID from now on. That'd do it too.











As much as I like OpenID I don't think startups were well advised if OpenID was the only way to sign in. Though they shouldn't hide OpenID login screens cowardly behind some links.
Wikipedia is NOT a company. OpenID has been considered for multi-lingual editing but something happened to that proposal... not sure what though!
I remember when CN used to support OpenID. Why not any longer?
Rob,
It still does, but there are no options to log in anymore. If you go to centernetworks.com/user you can still log in.
As for the story... I hate OpenID. It's very difficult to understand and even more difficult to implement. I blame the community around OpenID for this. Not everyone wants to read a white-paper to understand how the damn thing works. They need to make a practical guide to how it works, and how to implement it.
Until then, OpenID can kiss my ass. I'd rather integrate Passport.
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Sincerely,
The Mentally Retired mad scientist behind the WackyLabs LLC movement.
Don't hold back Jimmy! I agree and you make a great point about the coding - I was only thinking marketing but it's true that no one wants to read a white paper for a basic install.
One of my motivations for getting bigger and more experienced folks to adopt OpenID is to push on the user experience/best practice issues. Blogging at Blogger was originally pretty challenging, with its FTP publishing model and refreshing your entire archive every time you changed your template... when WordPress and others entered the market, things improved to the point where, today, the act of blogging is basically a no-brainer -- especially if you look at Twitter, the retard step-child of Blogger (I mean that in the kindest way -- let me put it this way -- anyone can basically use Twitter even if they don't "get" it).
So I support the contention that the OpenID experience needs to be improved. But I'm also confident that it will be and that the benefits, over the long term, far outweigh the intermediate hassles that will come as part of the technology adoption curve.
We really want to support OpenID at blip.tv. We've been talking about it for two and a half years now. Seriously.
We haven't yet seen the really compelling value proposition, mostly because most of the people we want to sign in either don't have OpenIDs or have no idea what an "open eyedee" is. We think we're much less equipped to educate them than, say, AOL...
Once AOL, Facebook, MySpace... once those guys start supporting them we will too. I promise. (And, yes, I know that AOL "supports" OpenID -- they just don't *support* it).
Please feel free to tell me if I'm full of crap. mike @7 blip D07 teevee.
Yours,
Mike Hudack
Co-founder & CEO, blip.tv