Comments on: Why Scraping Will Continue and Will Only Get Worse http://www.centernetworks.com/scraping-business-alley-insider-excerpt Web 2 and Social Media News and Reviews Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:50:56 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Derek http://www.centernetworks.com/scraping-business-alley-insider-excerpt/comment-page-#comment-21712 Derek Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-21712 Here at Tynt (http://www.tynt.com) we've been looking at the scraping problem as it isn't only websites that take your content and spread it around. It is also being very heavily passed around via e-mail and other channels. We are beta testing a service which will track when people copy content from your site and automatically add an attribution tag. This, in our tests so far, does drive more traffic to your site, can increase your search engine rankings, and also gives you insight into just how much copying is really going on. Ping me if Center Networks would like a Beta account. Derek (Tynt) Here at Tynt (http://www.tynt.com) we’ve been looking at the scraping problem as it isn’t only websites that take your content and spread it around. It is also being very heavily passed around via e-mail and other channels.

We are beta testing a service which will track when people copy content from your site and automatically add an attribution tag. This, in our tests so far, does drive more traffic to your site, can increase your search engine rankings, and also gives you insight into just how much copying is really going on.

Ping me if Center Networks would like a Beta account.

Derek (Tynt)

]]> By: Michael Fidler http://www.centernetworks.com/scraping-business-alley-insider-excerpt/comment-page-#comment-21716 Michael Fidler Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-21716 That is an interesting idea that Derek has. I try my best to respect not just you, but all the Blogger's by only clipping enough of a story to entice others to read more on the originating site. I find that usually a paragraph is enough. When it comes from my newsreader, I do not have control over the amount of content that might appear. I've noticed that socialmedian does take less than they did before. I have a feeling this might have something to do with your previous posts on the subject. I see it as sharing, not as pilfering a story. We do it on friendfeed too. I know that doesn't make it right. Last night Dave Morin started a discussion on ff about some remarks he made about Robert Scobble. A discussion quickly began and ran off topic almost immediately. One of the things that brought up was if it would be practical to pull comments together from a post no matter where they might be on the web (I hope I was reading this correctly). By republishing all of the comments here for any post, would this help at all? Here is the link http://twurl.nl/g24c73. It sounds like he’s thinking of pulling comments together, but so they can be used anywhere. That is an interesting idea that Derek has. I try my best to respect not just you, but all the Blogger’s by only clipping enough of a story to entice others to read more on the originating site. I find that usually a paragraph is enough. When it comes from my newsreader, I do not have control over the amount of content that might appear. I’ve noticed that socialmedian does take less than they did before. I have a feeling this might have something to do with your previous posts on the subject. I see it as sharing, not as pilfering a story. We do it on friendfeed too. I know that doesn’t make it right. Last night Dave Morin started a discussion on ff about some remarks he made about Robert Scobble. A discussion quickly began and ran off topic almost immediately. One of the things that brought up was if it would be practical to pull comments together from a post no matter where they might be on the web (I hope I was reading this correctly). By republishing all of the comments here for any post, would this help at all? Here is the link http://twurl.nl/g24c73. It sounds like he’s thinking of pulling comments together, but so they can be used anywhere.

]]> By: CR http://www.centernetworks.com/scraping-business-alley-insider-excerpt/comment-page-#comment-21725 CR Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-21725 Likewise... this blog, like most Web 2.0 blogs, could just write a line or two from the "About" page of the web 2.0 sites covered and link to them. Its news of news. And folks who "scrape" do news from news of news. Consider: Its not feasible for every site that carries news actually contact the source to do a "story". Consider: the user experience / site preference actually rules. Viewers should not be spoken of, or treated, as sheep to be herded to news of news sites. Folks frequent sites They like and if they get news from news of news on those sites thats fine with them because its one less click. Likewise… this blog, like most Web 2.0 blogs, could just write a line or two from the “About” page of the web 2.0 sites covered and link to them. Its news of news. And folks who “scrape” do news from news of news.

Consider: Its not feasible for every site that carries news actually contact the source to do a “story”.

Consider: the user experience / site preference actually rules. Viewers should not be spoken of, or treated, as sheep to be herded to news of news sites. Folks frequent sites They like and if they get news from news of news on those sites thats fine with them because its one less click.

]]> By: Mike Seidle http://www.centernetworks.com/scraping-business-alley-insider-excerpt/comment-page-#comment-21737 Mike Seidle Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-21737 I'm glad you posted this. Some of this is simple copyright infringement. Posting whole articles just isn't right. A lot of these blogs could learn a lot from the Slashdot old school of weblogging - one little quote, a link to the original and if their community discusses on their site, fine. But at least link to the first source wherever possible. I’m glad you posted this. Some of this is simple copyright infringement. Posting whole articles just isn’t right. A lot of these blogs could learn a lot from the Slashdot old school of weblogging – one little quote, a link to the original and if their community discusses on their site, fine. But at least link to the first source wherever possible.

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