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		<title>By: Brett Bringardner</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-1#comment-175298</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Bringardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Start-Up: A company that has been in business up to 12 months.

Existing Declining: A company that is 12 months or older with even or decreasing sales.

Existing Healthy: A company that is 12 months or older with even or increasing sales.

Nascent (Pre-venture) Entrepreneur: those individuals who have taken one or more active steps to form a business.

According to the Kauffman Foundation (www.kauffman.org).


Brett Bringardner

founder

Libriloop.com

book recycling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Start-Up: A company that has been in business up to 12 months.</p>
<p>Existing Declining: A company that is 12 months or older with even or decreasing sales.</p>
<p>Existing Healthy: A company that is 12 months or older with even or increasing sales.</p>
<p>Nascent (Pre-venture) Entrepreneur: those individuals who have taken one or more active steps to form a business.</p>
<p>According to the Kauffman Foundation (www.kauffman.org).</p>
<p>Brett Bringardner</p>
<p>founder</p>
<p>Libriloop.com</p>
<p>book recycling</p>
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		<title>By: TC50: The Funded Startups</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-1#comment-159962</link>
		<dc:creator>TC50: The Funded Startups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] discussed what defines a startup. Back in January I took a look at the specific question, &quot;How do you define &#8217;startup&#8217;?&quot; There seems to be no absolute concrete definition of &quot;startup&quot; &#8212; everyone has [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] discussed what defines a startup. Back in January I took a look at the specific question, &quot;How do you define &#8217;startup&#8217;?&quot; There seems to be no absolute concrete definition of &quot;startup&quot; &#8212; everyone has [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-1#comment-127496</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the Real Drama 2.0&#039;s definition but really I think it comes down to how long your company has been in business and whether or not you are still bootstrapping.  Mostly there&#039;s a list of reasons why you should stop calling youself a startup: more than a few years old, have your business model totally figured out, have a receptionist, letter head paper, business cards, ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the Real Drama 2.0&#8217;s definition but really I think it comes down to how long your company has been in business and whether or not you are still bootstrapping.  Mostly there&#8217;s a list of reasons why you should stop calling youself a startup: more than a few years old, have your business model totally figured out, have a receptionist, letter head paper, business cards, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Real Drama 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-#comment-13212</link>
		<dc:creator>The Real Drama 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To qualify as a bonafide startup today, your company:

- Must have a cool name that does not describe what your company does. Example: Jangl.
- Cannot have a business model or an interest in developing one. Example: Twitter.
- Must raise as much cash as its founders can find from VCs and institutional investors. Example: Ning.
- Must have a CEO who knows that leadership is dead and that it&#039;s all about doing what the &quot;community&quot; wants. Example: Mahalo.
- Should have at least one founder who went to Stanford. Example: Meembo.
- Must throw at least one huge launch party for a new product. Example: Netvibes.
- Must allow pets in the office. Example: Dogster.

Conversely, a startup cannot:

- Have a CEO over the age of 40. Example: Federated Media.
- Be based outside of Silicon Valley. Example: Wetpaint.
- Offer services that aren&#039;t supported by advertising and that people actually pay for. Example: ConceptShare.
- Be profitable. Example: PlentyOfFish.

This is a definitive answer. Please close comments for this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To qualify as a bonafide startup today, your company:</p>
<p>- Must have a cool name that does not describe what your company does. Example: Jangl.<br />
- Cannot have a business model or an interest in developing one. Example: Twitter.<br />
- Must raise as much cash as its founders can find from VCs and institutional investors. Example: Ning.<br />
- Must have a CEO who knows that leadership is dead and that it&#8217;s all about doing what the &#8220;community&#8221; wants. Example: Mahalo.<br />
- Should have at least one founder who went to Stanford. Example: Meembo.<br />
- Must throw at least one huge launch party for a new product. Example: Netvibes.<br />
- Must allow pets in the office. Example: Dogster.</p>
<p>Conversely, a startup cannot:</p>
<p>- Have a CEO over the age of 40. Example: Federated Media.<br />
- Be based outside of Silicon Valley. Example: Wetpaint.<br />
- Offer services that aren&#8217;t supported by advertising and that people actually pay for. Example: ConceptShare.<br />
- Be profitable. Example: PlentyOfFish.</p>
<p>This is a definitive answer. Please close comments for this post.</p>
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		<title>By: pete grillo</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-1#comment-13907</link>
		<dc:creator>pete grillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I define a startup as a company that has - or intends on -exchanging investment capital for equity and is still counting this capital to sustain its existence.  In other words, it’s funded somehow – founders, founders working for free, angels, VCs – and it’s not yet cash flow positive to a degree needed to sustain its existence or growth. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I define a startup as a company that has &#8211; or intends on -exchanging investment capital for equity and is still counting this capital to sustain its existence.  In other words, it’s funded somehow – founders, founders working for free, angels, VCs – and it’s not yet cash flow positive to a degree needed to sustain its existence or growth.</p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-#comment-15748</link>
		<dc:creator>centernetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;
damn. you are like the better uncov and i know they followed you.
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I can&#039;t close comments though - my editor won&#039;t allow it - I checked.
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damn. you are like the better uncov and i know they followed you.
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I can&#8217;t close comments though &#8211; my editor won&#8217;t allow it &#8211; I checked.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kathleen Flynn</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-#comment-15830</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Kathleen Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Allen,

I like the I-know-it-when-I-see-it defintion. :)

Speaking of interesting startups...I had a great talk today with Mark Pincus, the founder of Zynga Game Network.

Check it out:
http://www.techconfidential.com/behind-the-money/blog/angel-investor/qa-with-zynga-game-network-fou.php

Looking forward to seeing you F2F at Alan Brody&#039;s ibreakfast Web 2.0 event on the 31st!

All the best,
Mary Kathleen Flynn
Senior Editor
The Deal &amp; Tech Confidential
mflynn@thedeal.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Allen,</p>
<p>I like the I-know-it-when-I-see-it defintion. :)</p>
<p>Speaking of interesting startups&#8230;I had a great talk today with Mark Pincus, the founder of Zynga Game Network.</p>
<p>Check it out:<br />
<a href="http://www.techconfidential.com/behind-the-money/blog/angel-investor/qa-with-zynga-game-network-fou.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.techconfidential.com/behind-the-money/blog/angel-investor/qa-with-zynga-game-network-fou.php</a></p>
<p>Looking forward to seeing you F2F at Alan Brody&#8217;s ibreakfast Web 2.0 event on the 31st!</p>
<p>All the best,<br />
Mary Kathleen Flynn<br />
Senior Editor<br />
The Deal &#038; Tech Confidential<br />
<a href="mailto:mflynn@thedeal.com">mflynn@thedeal.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stanley Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-1#comment-15924</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanley Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of these Web 2.0 science projects are nothing more than digital art.  And VC&#039;s are the collectors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of these Web 2.0 science projects are nothing more than digital art.  And VC&#8217;s are the collectors.</p>
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		<title>By: GW</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-#comment-16025</link>
		<dc:creator>GW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The company I work for has about 70-80 staff - but we&#039;re a new startup.

We&#039;ve just started trading recently and are expanding rapidly, yet we have the cool office culture, great benefits, open forums for discussions, flexible working hours.

Props to anybody that guesses who we are. European based : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The company I work for has about 70-80 staff &#8211; but we&#8217;re a new startup.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve just started trading recently and are expanding rapidly, yet we have the cool office culture, great benefits, open forums for discussions, flexible working hours.</p>
<p>Props to anybody that guesses who we are. European based : )</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-#comment-16134</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think startup means a company that is less than 12 months old or  maybe 12 months from launch of their product. 

My business is a startup, I run a 1 man web development shop but from April I will have been in business for a year and want to move the business on so I feel startup at that stage would harm the business. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think startup means a company that is less than 12 months old or  maybe 12 months from launch of their product. </p>
<p>My business is a startup, I run a 1 man web development shop but from April I will have been in business for a year and want to move the business on so I feel startup at that stage would harm the business.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoli Erdos</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-#comment-16141</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoli Erdos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.atlassian.com/rebelutionary/archives/2007/05/when_is_a_startup_not_a_startup_anymore.html&quot;&gt;definition&lt;/a&gt; from a cool startup ... hm... a company trying to remain a startup :-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://blogs.atlassian.com/rebelutionary/archives/2007/05/when_is_a_startup_not_a_startup_anymore.html">definition</a> from a cool startup &#8230; hm&#8230; a company trying to remain a startup :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-#comment-16151</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As renowned Supreme Court justice Potter Stewart said regarding pornography, &quot;It is hard to define, but I know it when I see it.&quot; And such is the case with your list. Unfortunately, I don&#039;t know all of the companies well enough to apply my rule. 

So I will take a stabI think if any of the below is true, generally (though not absolutely) you are a startup.

The key question is how mature is the company towards its business plan. For example, Federated Media has presumably executed the full scope of its business plan, i.e. they are selling ads, which I presume, was their plan. Twitter on the other hand has not even figured out a revenue model. That is clearly a startup. This does not work in biotech, where companies go public way before they sell anything. But in the internet space I think the  &quot;where are you in your plan&quot; rule is pretty good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As renowned Supreme Court justice Potter Stewart said regarding pornography, &#8220;It is hard to define, but I know it when I see it.&#8221; And such is the case with your list. Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t know all of the companies well enough to apply my rule. </p>
<p>So I will take a stabI think if any of the below is true, generally (though not absolutely) you are a startup.</p>
<p>The key question is how mature is the company towards its business plan. For example, Federated Media has presumably executed the full scope of its business plan, i.e. they are selling ads, which I presume, was their plan. Twitter on the other hand has not even figured out a revenue model. That is clearly a startup. This does not work in biotech, where companies go public way before they sell anything. But in the internet space I think the  &#8220;where are you in your plan&#8221; rule is pretty good.</p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/startup-definition/comment-page-#comment-16154</link>
		<dc:creator>centernetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Hank!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Hank!</p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
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		<dc:creator>centernetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Darren! So your definition is time based.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Darren! So your definition is time based.</p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
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		<dc:creator>centernetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you! so they go by biz plan - guess that means twitter will always be a startup (sorry couldn&#039;t resist!)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you! so they go by biz plan &#8211; guess that means twitter will always be a startup (sorry couldn&#8217;t resist!)</p>
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