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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/the-real-issues-with-human-anything-speed-and-bias/comment-page-#comment-13134</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mahalo for the solid feedback.

1. Regarding the breaking news stuff give us a little time. We&#039;re just building out our staff and our pace--and the publics pace at contributing to the pages--will increase by the end of the year. Right now you&#039;re looking at 5% of Mahalo. 

2.Regarding the bias we didn&#039;t just do &quot;friends of Jason&quot; we did folks like Nick Denton as well. We basically did a bunch of bloggers and podcasters of note (think the Technorati 300). So, just because I&#039;m a blogger and know Dave Winer, Doc, Jeff Jarvis, and Om Malik don&#039;t assume it is bias--those guys are GIANTS in the blogging world. We could be remiss if didn&#039;t do them! 

That being said, if you think there are bloggers of note (i.e. folks who have been blogging for a long time with large audiences) that we&#039;ve missed please request their pages and we will do them ASAP.

Mahalo for helping Mahalo.com get a little better every day!

Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mahalo for the solid feedback.</p>
<p>1. Regarding the breaking news stuff give us a little time. We&#8217;re just building out our staff and our pace&#8211;and the publics pace at contributing to the pages&#8211;will increase by the end of the year. Right now you&#8217;re looking at 5% of Mahalo. </p>
<p>2.Regarding the bias we didn&#8217;t just do &#8220;friends of Jason&#8221; we did folks like Nick Denton as well. We basically did a bunch of bloggers and podcasters of note (think the Technorati 300). So, just because I&#8217;m a blogger and know Dave Winer, Doc, Jeff Jarvis, and Om Malik don&#8217;t assume it is bias&#8211;those guys are GIANTS in the blogging world. We could be remiss if didn&#8217;t do them! </p>
<p>That being said, if you think there are bloggers of note (i.e. folks who have been blogging for a long time with large audiences) that we&#8217;ve missed please request their pages and we will do them ASAP.</p>
<p>Mahalo for helping Mahalo.com get a little better every day!</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Mash</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/the-real-issues-with-human-anything-speed-and-bias/comment-page-#comment-13135</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Mash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very insightful article as always Allen. You do a fantastic job covering search and search related topics.

Personally I don&#039;t see Mahalo being ground breaking in the least. How is this better than Wikipedia which has a full description of the topic and relevant external links? More pleasing on the eye for sure, but that is about it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insightful article as always Allen. You do a fantastic job covering search and search related topics.</p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t see Mahalo being ground breaking in the least. How is this better than Wikipedia which has a full description of the topic and relevant external links? More pleasing on the eye for sure, but that is about it.</p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/the-real-issues-with-human-anything-speed-and-bias/comment-page-#comment-13136</link>
		<dc:creator>centernetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the kind words SEO Mash, I appreciate it!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What I wonder is if Mahalo would have any coverage at all if the &quot;name&quot; of Jason wasn&#039;t behind it. Same thing with Truemors, would anyone care if Guy wasn&#039;t behind it? Interesting question to ponder.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words SEO Mash, I appreciate it!</p>
<p>What I wonder is if Mahalo would have any coverage at all if the &quot;name&quot; of Jason wasn&#39;t behind it. Same thing with Truemors, would anyone care if Guy wasn&#39;t behind it? Interesting question to ponder.</p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/the-real-issues-with-human-anything-speed-and-bias/comment-page-#comment-13137</link>
		<dc:creator>centernetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for replying Jason. Let me break down your points a bit...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1. Regarding the breaking news stuff give us a little time. We&#039;re just building out our staff and our pace--and the publics pace at contributing to the pages--will increase by the end of the year. Right now you&#039;re looking at 5% of Mahalo. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;I know you are Alpha, I saw your 100x Alpha post. It really wouldn&#039;t matter though if you have 10, 100, or every outsourcer in the world, the news moves too quickly. And so what is your employee doing? Going to Google/T&#039;rati/etc to find the news and bring it back? There is still a lag there. How often are pages updated?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;2.Regarding the bias we didn&#039;t just do &quot;friends of Jason&quot; we did folks like Nick Denton as well. We basically did a bunch of &lt;a itxtdid=&quot;2929515&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.centernetworks.com/comment/reply/964/4072#&quot; style=&quot;font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; padding-bottom: 1px; color: darkgreen; border-bottom: darkgreen 0.07em solid; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: underline&quot; class=&quot;iAs&quot;&gt;bloggers&lt;/a&gt; and podcasters of note (think the Technorati 300). So, just because I&#039;m a blogger and know Dave Winer, Doc, Jeff Jarvis, and Om Malik don&#039;t assume it is bias--those guys are GIANTS in the blogging &lt;a itxtdid=&quot;4034564&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.centernetworks.com/comment/reply/964/4072#&quot; style=&quot;font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; padding-bottom: 1px; color: darkgreen; border-bottom: darkgreen 0.07em solid; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: underline&quot; class=&quot;iAs&quot;&gt;world&lt;/a&gt;. We could be remiss if didn&#039;t do them! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;I should have placed a vegas bet that you would say that Denton is not a friend. He is a frienemy and it&#039;s important to keep them satisfied as well. Unfortunately, I don&#039;t fully buy your reasoning and I believe these pages were created for three main reasons and your reason which might be a 4th reason:&lt;br /&gt;1. You want them to write about your service and knowing a page is there for them, can help that.&lt;br /&gt;2. You attend many conferences and it&#039;s critical that you can walk up to these &quot;GIANTS&quot; and say that you want to show them their page.&lt;br /&gt;3. I will go along with your Top 300 bloggers. Though is it all of the 300? Just curious. If so, that would help me get into your camp.&lt;br /&gt;I can&#039;t blame you for doing it, though I disagree with it because of the bias. So you are admitting I guess that it&#039;s not the Top 10K searches, it&#039;s just what I suggested, Top 10k Plus anyone else you &quot;deem worthy&quot; - which is the bias. And again, I can&#039;t blame you for doing so. &lt;strong class=&quot;highlight&quot;&gt;You would have earned tons of credits with me had you not created a page about yourself before it was the appropriate time to do so.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;In addition, when I speak about bias, will we always see &quot;friend&quot; links in the top 7? Do sites you are/were affiliated with get bonus treatment? Again, I don&#039;t see this in Google. (I am not saying that you do this now, just would like to understand the company policy.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;That being said, if you think there are bloggers of note (i.e. folks who have been blogging for a long time with large audiences) that we&#039;ve missed please request their pages and we will do them ASAP.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sure, CenterNetworks could use a page. But there is no form for submissions, only for links on a page. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am trying to provide you with some constructive feedback from someone who has been in the biz as long as you have and has seen bias/favoritism hurt other sites over the years.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for replying Jason. Let me break down your points a bit&#8230;</p>
<p>1. Regarding the breaking news stuff give us a little time. We&#39;re just building out our staff and our pace&#8211;and the publics pace at contributing to the pages&#8211;will increase by the end of the year. Right now you&#39;re looking at 5% of Mahalo. </p>
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<li>I know you are Alpha, I saw your 100x Alpha post. It really wouldn&#39;t matter though if you have 10, 100, or every outsourcer in the world, the news moves too quickly. And so what is your employee doing? Going to Google/T&#39;rati/etc to find the news and bring it back? There is still a lag there. How often are pages updated?</li>
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<p>2.Regarding the bias we didn&#39;t just do &quot;friends of Jason&quot; we did folks like Nick Denton as well. We basically did a bunch of <a itxtdid="2929515" target="_blank" href="http://www.centernetworks.com/comment/reply/964/4072#" style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; padding-bottom: 1px; color: darkgreen; border-bottom: darkgreen 0.07em solid; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: underline" class="iAs">bloggers</a> and podcasters of note (think the Technorati 300). So, just because I&#39;m a blogger and know Dave Winer, Doc, Jeff Jarvis, and Om Malik don&#39;t assume it is bias&#8211;those guys are GIANTS in the blogging <a itxtdid="4034564" target="_blank" href="http://www.centernetworks.com/comment/reply/964/4072#" style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; padding-bottom: 1px; color: darkgreen; border-bottom: darkgreen 0.07em solid; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: underline" class="iAs">world</a>. We could be remiss if didn&#39;t do them! </p>
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<li>I should have placed a vegas bet that you would say that Denton is not a friend. He is a frienemy and it&#39;s important to keep them satisfied as well. Unfortunately, I don&#39;t fully buy your reasoning and I believe these pages were created for three main reasons and your reason which might be a 4th reason:<br />1. You want them to write about your service and knowing a page is there for them, can help that.<br />2. You attend many conferences and it&#39;s critical that you can walk up to these &quot;GIANTS&quot; and say that you want to show them their page.<br />3. I will go along with your Top 300 bloggers. Though is it all of the 300? Just curious. If so, that would help me get into your camp.<br />I can&#39;t blame you for doing it, though I disagree with it because of the bias. So you are admitting I guess that it&#39;s not the Top 10K searches, it&#39;s just what I suggested, Top 10k Plus anyone else you &quot;deem worthy&quot; &#8211; which is the bias. And again, I can&#39;t blame you for doing so. <strong class="highlight">You would have earned tons of credits with me had you not created a page about yourself before it was the appropriate time to do so.</strong></li>
<li>In addition, when I speak about bias, will we always see &quot;friend&quot; links in the top 7? Do sites you are/were affiliated with get bonus treatment? Again, I don&#39;t see this in Google. (I am not saying that you do this now, just would like to understand the company policy.)</li>
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<p>That being said, if you think there are bloggers of note (i.e. folks who have been blogging for a long time with large audiences) that we&#39;ve missed please request their pages and we will do them ASAP.</p>
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<li>Sure, CenterNetworks could use a page. But there is no form for submissions, only for links on a page. </li>
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<p>I am trying to provide you with some constructive feedback from someone who has been in the biz as long as you have and has seen bias/favoritism hurt other sites over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Mash</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/the-real-issues-with-human-anything-speed-and-bias/comment-page-#comment-13138</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Mash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With search being all the rage these days I believe that Mahalo would have received some press (as an alternative to the &quot;big guys&quot;) without Jason&#039;s name being attached to it. Certainly the fanfare would have been far less though.

Truemors on the otherhand? That would have been completely DOA without Guy&#039;s backing.

It is no different that Tom Cruise being associated with a movie or Madonna with a new album. Even if the work does not have the legs to stand on its own, because it is associated with a known entity people will flock to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With search being all the rage these days I believe that Mahalo would have received some press (as an alternative to the &#8220;big guys&#8221;) without Jason&#8217;s name being attached to it. Certainly the fanfare would have been far less though.</p>
<p>Truemors on the otherhand? That would have been completely DOA without Guy&#8217;s backing.</p>
<p>It is no different that Tom Cruise being associated with a movie or Madonna with a new album. Even if the work does not have the legs to stand on its own, because it is associated with a known entity people will flock to it.</p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/the-real-issues-with-human-anything-speed-and-bias/comment-page-#comment-13140</link>
		<dc:creator>centernetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with your statements completely. Would anyone else have been able to get Kevin Rose to put his app on the frontpage? Nope.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The question is whether celebrity can help the app for the long-run. Jason is getting interviewed by people that you or I would never be asked by, the question is whether anyone will care in the long run.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To me, I haven&#039;t really heard Jason say anything that made me believe he is an expert frankly. In fact, for him to make the statements he did at SES Chicago (all that I have recorded) and then create a search engine himself, makes me really start to question more.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your statements completely. Would anyone else have been able to get Kevin Rose to put his app on the frontpage? Nope.</p>
<p>The question is whether celebrity can help the app for the long-run. Jason is getting interviewed by people that you or I would never be asked by, the question is whether anyone will care in the long run.</p>
<p>To me, I haven&#39;t really heard Jason say anything that made me believe he is an expert frankly. In fact, for him to make the statements he did at SES Chicago (all that I have recorded) and then create a search engine himself, makes me really start to question more.</p>
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