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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-1#comment-13972</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else notice that those suggesting business models haven&#039;t made any money, save one who sold his company during the bubble to AOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else notice that those suggesting business models haven&#8217;t made any money, save one who sold his company during the bubble to AOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Nils Geylen</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-1#comment-13974</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils Geylen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been brewing for weeks if not months. They should sit tight, get better, then make a move.

A lot can be done to improve T and paid premium accounts is one of them. Twitter has become the ultimate micromedia tool of the moment. Personally, I push and pull links, info, news and more from T. I&#039;m not even on IM let alone mail anymore.

Twitter for president. But they should absolutely, totally not succumb now and spoil stuff for investors and users and become critics fodder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been brewing for weeks if not months. They should sit tight, get better, then make a move.</p>
<p>A lot can be done to improve T and paid premium accounts is one of them. Twitter has become the ultimate micromedia tool of the moment. Personally, I push and pull links, info, news and more from T. I&#8217;m not even on IM let alone mail anymore.</p>
<p>Twitter for president. But they should absolutely, totally not succumb now and spoil stuff for investors and users and become critics fodder.</p>
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		<title>By: John Federico</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-1#comment-14609</link>
		<dc:creator>John Federico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be perfectly content if the gang at twitter inserted a paid post for every 20 or so posts.

This is what the free version of twitterrific does and it&#039;s perfectly reasonable. Heck - I&#039;ve even responded to some of those ads and paid green dollars for the services offered.

Regards,

-jf.

-- 
John Federico
http://www.odmcast.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be perfectly content if the gang at twitter inserted a paid post for every 20 or so posts.</p>
<p>This is what the free version of twitterrific does and it&#8217;s perfectly reasonable. Heck &#8211; I&#8217;ve even responded to some of those ads and paid green dollars for the services offered.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>-jf.</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
John Federico<br />
<a href="http://www.odmcast.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.odmcast.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: dc crowley</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-1#comment-15277</link>
		<dc:creator>dc crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You talk about pownce having a business model! Without a proper user base their business model is worth zilch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You talk about pownce having a business model! Without a proper user base their business model is worth zilch.</p>
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		<title>By: wayne sutton</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-1#comment-15402</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think eventually twitter will be purchased by a major player (google, Microsoft) after that happens who knows. 

What business models do you see Twitter employing and when?
I see inline ads and mobile text based ads, you know it&#039;s coming. I would say by Q4 2008.

Will an advertising-based model make the Twitter hardcore users leave? 
I would say know, hardcore users see the value in twitter and will stay, but then it may only leave a twitter elite community.

Would you pay for Twitter access? 
Yes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think eventually twitter will be purchased by a major player (google, Microsoft) after that happens who knows. </p>
<p>What business models do you see Twitter employing and when?<br />
I see inline ads and mobile text based ads, you know it&#8217;s coming. I would say by Q4 2008.</p>
<p>Will an advertising-based model make the Twitter hardcore users leave?<br />
I would say know, hardcore users see the value in twitter and will stay, but then it may only leave a twitter elite community.</p>
<p>Would you pay for Twitter access?<br />
Yes</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Sandie</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-1#comment-15417</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Sandie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They only distribute tiny pieces of text. They are already sending tidbits in any short text message I get via SMS. If they make a penny in profit on every update/post, that&#039;s alot of potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They only distribute tiny pieces of text. They are already sending tidbits in any short text message I get via SMS. If they make a penny in profit on every update/post, that&#8217;s alot of potential.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-1#comment-15436</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the exit is going to be via sale.  you dont need a business plan when you have an exit. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the exit is going to be via sale.  you dont need a business plan when you have an exit.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Shepard</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-1#comment-15468</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Shepard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m down with Pounce. I&#039;d like to use Pounce. Today. So, when will the &lt;b&gt;freak&#039;n endless private Beta end&lt;/b&gt;? And why does everyone think Pounce is a Twitter killer when it&#039;s not even open to the public yet? I put my email addy in for an invite, butt hay, you need a famous last name and 100 friends to get asked I suppose.

The hell? ~ Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m down with Pounce. I&#8217;d like to use Pounce. Today. So, when will the <b>freak&#8217;n endless private Beta end</b>? And why does everyone think Pounce is a Twitter killer when it&#8217;s not even open to the public yet? I put my email addy in for an invite, butt hay, you need a famous last name and 100 friends to get asked I suppose.</p>
<p>The hell? ~ Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-#comment-15470</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are twitter&#039;s potential business models? If most of the usage is through the api then they would have to use some form of in-feed advertising wouldn&#039;t they?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are twitter&#8217;s potential business models? If most of the usage is through the api then they would have to use some form of in-feed advertising wouldn&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: robojiannis</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-#comment-15471</link>
		<dc:creator>robojiannis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see twitter as a game. A fun community to socialize.
I can&#039;t imagine users paying for a service, which provides so compact and superficial information (140 characters). Maybe the hardcore users would stay, but the community would lose many users. (Is the 80/20 Rule apply in twitter too?)
Maybe specific software/plugins/stats/whatever could be a way to earn some money. Donations too.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see twitter as a game. A fun community to socialize.<br />
I can&#8217;t imagine users paying for a service, which provides so compact and superficial information (140 characters). Maybe the hardcore users would stay, but the community would lose many users. (Is the 80/20 Rule apply in twitter too?)<br />
Maybe specific software/plugins/stats/whatever could be a way to earn some money. Donations too.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Breslin</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-#comment-15486</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Breslin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta say charging for access to the API would be a bad way to go, maybe charging for more than 70 requests per hour would work. I think my users (twitbin) would pay for that and maybe more than 20 messages in the stream (api limits you to 20 most recent).

But I see them monetizing with promotional methods (paid plugs in the stream like pownce), white label tools for intranets maybe, leveraging their dominance in the sms services.

they are building the underpinnings for a beautiful social graph, its not as strong as other connections yet, but when it gets mainstream you&#039;ll see a definite need for more tools to manage your twitter stream. I could see a lot of people paying for a pro account. Scoble and Jeremiah Owyang would be the first to drop a hundred or 2 for a year of pro service. I probably would too. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta say charging for access to the API would be a bad way to go, maybe charging for more than 70 requests per hour would work. I think my users (twitbin) would pay for that and maybe more than 20 messages in the stream (api limits you to 20 most recent).</p>
<p>But I see them monetizing with promotional methods (paid plugs in the stream like pownce), white label tools for intranets maybe, leveraging their dominance in the sms services.</p>
<p>they are building the underpinnings for a beautiful social graph, its not as strong as other connections yet, but when it gets mainstream you&#8217;ll see a definite need for more tools to manage your twitter stream. I could see a lot of people paying for a pro account. Scoble and Jeremiah Owyang would be the first to drop a hundred or 2 for a year of pro service. I probably would too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-#comment-15494</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Twitter is a business. It&#039;s a cool service that&#039;s an M&amp;A play - something I posted on earlier this week. 

Sure, some start-ups get venture capital without a rock-solid path to make money but Twitter appears to be struggling to come up with something that makes sense for everyone - the company, investors and users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Twitter is a business. It&#8217;s a cool service that&#8217;s an M&#038;A play &#8211; something I posted on earlier this week. </p>
<p>Sure, some start-ups get venture capital without a rock-solid path to make money but Twitter appears to be struggling to come up with something that makes sense for everyone &#8211; the company, investors and users.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Schnese</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-1#comment-15522</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Schnese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone loves that Twitter is free - right?  If Twitter charged it&#039;s users, then some people would stop using it.  Once a few people stop, a snowball effect could occur.  I like to follow my friends and tech people in NYC, but I doubt I&#039;d pay for it and they might not either.  Once my friends were gone, then I&#039;d have no reason to use (and pay), then I&#039;d quit too.

An obvious answer is to throw up some ads on Twitter.com.  You might as well do this becuase it will generate some money.  I doubt most people would care either, do the ads on TechCrunch really upset you?  No, they don&#039;t, you just ignore them, but TC is making money.  Fine, the simple answer is to throw up some ads.

A more interesting answer is this: how about businesses can pay to make keywords link to their sites?  For example, beYOU.tv (where I work) could buy the keyword phrase &quot;fitness videos&quot;.  Anytime someone typed in &quot;fitness video&quot;, it would be converted into a hyperlink that linked to beYOU.tv.

This would only work for regular text phrases.  If someone submitted the URL: www.fitnessvideo.com, then it wouldn&#039;t link to beYOU, becuase that&#039;s already in a link.  But for regular text, businesses should be able to buy keywords and links.

Twitter could use this idea as a non-intrusive way to generate money.

Greg Schnese
beYOU.tv
SoUrban.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone loves that Twitter is free &#8211; right?  If Twitter charged it&#8217;s users, then some people would stop using it.  Once a few people stop, a snowball effect could occur.  I like to follow my friends and tech people in NYC, but I doubt I&#8217;d pay for it and they might not either.  Once my friends were gone, then I&#8217;d have no reason to use (and pay), then I&#8217;d quit too.</p>
<p>An obvious answer is to throw up some ads on Twitter.com.  You might as well do this becuase it will generate some money.  I doubt most people would care either, do the ads on TechCrunch really upset you?  No, they don&#8217;t, you just ignore them, but TC is making money.  Fine, the simple answer is to throw up some ads.</p>
<p>A more interesting answer is this: how about businesses can pay to make keywords link to their sites?  For example, beYOU.tv (where I work) could buy the keyword phrase &#8220;fitness videos&#8221;.  Anytime someone typed in &#8220;fitness video&#8221;, it would be converted into a hyperlink that linked to beYOU.tv.</p>
<p>This would only work for regular text phrases.  If someone submitted the URL: <a href="http://www.fitnessvideo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fitnessvideo.com</a>, then it wouldn&#8217;t link to beYOU, becuase that&#8217;s already in a link.  But for regular text, businesses should be able to buy keywords and links.</p>
<p>Twitter could use this idea as a non-intrusive way to generate money.</p>
<p>Greg Schnese<br />
beYOU.tv<br />
SoUrban.net</p>
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		<title>By: The Real Drama 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-#comment-15528</link>
		<dc:creator>The Real Drama 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon Allen. You know their business model:

1. Raise as much VC money as possible.
2. Have a good time spending it.

Seems viable to me. What could go wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Allen. You know their business model:</p>
<p>1. Raise as much VC money as possible.<br />
2. Have a good time spending it.</p>
<p>Seems viable to me. What could go wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-business-model/comment-page-1#comment-15529</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &#039;follow&#039; the feeds from commercial blogs through Twitter/Twitterific. I find this much more convenient that keeping various web pages open.

Because they recode URLs via TinyURL, they could easily convert my &#039;click throughs&#039; into money. (BTW, they should license the TinyURL algorithm and use TwitterURL.com instead of TinyURL.com.)

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I &#8216;follow&#8217; the feeds from commercial blogs through Twitter/Twitterific. I find this much more convenient that keeping various web pages open.</p>
<p>Because they recode URLs via TinyURL, they could easily convert my &#8216;click throughs&#8217; into money. (BTW, they should license the TinyURL algorithm and use TwitterURL.com instead of TinyURL.com.)</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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