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		<title>By: Please Help Me Identify These Cupcakes &#124; CenterNetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-1#comment-33967</link>
		<dc:creator>Please Help Me Identify These Cupcakes &#124; CenterNetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] learn more about the technology, expansion plans, international services, etc.  Since my previous support requests went completely unanswered I have no idea how to schedule a meeting so I plan to just stop [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21800</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post - twitter just thinks they can get away with anything these days because the media loves them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post &#8211; twitter just thinks they can get away with anything these days because the media loves them</p>
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		<title>By: Milos</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21802</link>
		<dc:creator>Milos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get a sense that they are still winging a lot of things. I doubt that they have proper support channels established and error notifications. Hopefully they will understand the importance of customer centric business focus and get their kinks ironed out before it becomes too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get a sense that they are still winging a lot of things. I doubt that they have proper support channels established and error notifications. Hopefully they will understand the importance of customer centric business focus and get their kinks ironed out before it becomes too late.</p>
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		<title>By: LoneWolf</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21803</link>
		<dc:creator>LoneWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the people at Twitter are probably overwhelmed by what it has become and the speed with which it is growing.  The number of users has increased dramatically and the number of messages has as well as more people use it in ways that were probably never envisioned.

There are lots of complaints about Twitter but I think we have to remember that this is a free service.  While they are getting funding it isn&#039;t coming from you or me.  I think we need to cut them a little slack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the people at Twitter are probably overwhelmed by what it has become and the speed with which it is growing.  The number of users has increased dramatically and the number of messages has as well as more people use it in ways that were probably never envisioned.</p>
<p>There are lots of complaints about Twitter but I think we have to remember that this is a free service.  While they are getting funding it isn&#8217;t coming from you or me.  I think we need to cut them a little slack.</p>
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		<title>By: icp</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21804</link>
		<dc:creator>icp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally got a response, of sorts, to a ticket I opened in January.  The response was an automated response telling me my ticket had been open for more than two weeks.  Thanks, knew that.

If twitter&#039;s own help system is to be believed, no one from twitter has looked at my ticket since January.

Twitter appears to have a problem with long usernames.  My guess is that part of the system has a limit, but the part which lets you register doesn’t enforce the limit.  So you end up creating an account which you can use as long as you stay logged in, but if you log out, or log in via another twitter client, you can&#039;t because now you&#039;re hitting the part of the system which DOES enforce the username length.

When I try to reset the password for the account, the twitter system accepts both the userid and registered email, but no email ever appears.

Honestly, they should shut down their support system at this point, they don&#039;t respond to it.  Far better to set the correct level of expectations (no support) than deceive people into thinking that they&#039;ll get a response if they open a ticket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally got a response, of sorts, to a ticket I opened in January.  The response was an automated response telling me my ticket had been open for more than two weeks.  Thanks, knew that.</p>
<p>If twitter&#8217;s own help system is to be believed, no one from twitter has looked at my ticket since January.</p>
<p>Twitter appears to have a problem with long usernames.  My guess is that part of the system has a limit, but the part which lets you register doesn’t enforce the limit.  So you end up creating an account which you can use as long as you stay logged in, but if you log out, or log in via another twitter client, you can&#8217;t because now you&#8217;re hitting the part of the system which DOES enforce the username length.</p>
<p>When I try to reset the password for the account, the twitter system accepts both the userid and registered email, but no email ever appears.</p>
<p>Honestly, they should shut down their support system at this point, they don&#8217;t respond to it.  Far better to set the correct level of expectations (no support) than deceive people into thinking that they&#8217;ll get a response if they open a ticket.</p>
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		<title>By: app103</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21805</link>
		<dc:creator>app103</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100% that any company should offer good support to their customers if they want to stay in business.

But who exactly are twitter&#039;s customers?

Are you? How much did you pay to use twitter?

Those that pay, are customers. Those that do not, are just users of a free service.

AVG Antivirus comes in 2 flavors: paid &amp; free.

Grisoft considers those that pay their customers and will provide good customer service to them, through email, answered by actual Grisoft employees.

Those that use the free version are just users and are told if they have any problems or issues to go to the user2user support forum and help each other figure it out.  You can&#039;t even report a bug or false positive unless you pay them first. That forum isn&#039;t monitored by any employees of Grisoft, it&#039;s strictly volunteers.

You should be happy that twitter doesn&#039;t work like a lot of other free services and they didn&#039;t just email you a link to a forum full of other confused twitter users, to answer your questions.

Unless you paid them for your twitter account, as L-eWolf said, cut them some slack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100% that any company should offer good support to their customers if they want to stay in business.</p>
<p>But who exactly are twitter&#8217;s customers?</p>
<p>Are you? How much did you pay to use twitter?</p>
<p>Those that pay, are customers. Those that do not, are just users of a free service.</p>
<p>AVG Antivirus comes in 2 flavors: paid &#038; free.</p>
<p>Grisoft considers those that pay their customers and will provide good customer service to them, through email, answered by actual Grisoft employees.</p>
<p>Those that use the free version are just users and are told if they have any problems or issues to go to the user2user support forum and help each other figure it out.  You can&#8217;t even report a bug or false positive unless you pay them first. That forum isn&#8217;t monitored by any employees of Grisoft, it&#8217;s strictly volunteers.</p>
<p>You should be happy that twitter doesn&#8217;t work like a lot of other free services and they didn&#8217;t just email you a link to a forum full of other confused twitter users, to answer your questions.</p>
<p>Unless you paid them for your twitter account, as L-eWolf said, cut them some slack.</p>
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		<title>By: LoneWolf</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21806</link>
		<dc:creator>LoneWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just noticed that the Name field in this comments section is changing the characters &quot;on&quot; to a dash for some reason.  LoneWolf comes out as L-eWolf and Anonymous as An-ymous.

As for the length issue you noted in your followup comment, I use @LoneWolfMuskoka which is longer than @cloudcontacts and haven&#039;t run into any problems like you are describing.  It could possibly be that 13 characters is somehow hokey, but I doubt that -- it doesn&#039;t seem like an edge case.

I wonder if you may have put some non-printable or white space characters into the original account name when you signed up.  Some parts of the system may match the name while others don&#039;t.  It may also be possible that the character encoding could have been screwed up somewhere and some of the servers handle it and others don&#039;t.  That might explain why refreshing a random number of times gets you logged in.

Anyway, I&#039;m just guessing at what the problem might be and the point is moot since I can&#039;t do anything about it anyway.  I hope that the issue gets sorted out for you soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just noticed that the Name field in this comments section is changing the characters &#8220;on&#8221; to a dash for some reason.  LoneWolf comes out as L-eWolf and Anonymous as An-ymous.</p>
<p>As for the length issue you noted in your followup comment, I use @LoneWolfMuskoka which is longer than @cloudcontacts and haven&#8217;t run into any problems like you are describing.  It could possibly be that 13 characters is somehow hokey, but I doubt that &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t seem like an edge case.</p>
<p>I wonder if you may have put some non-printable or white space characters into the original account name when you signed up.  Some parts of the system may match the name while others don&#8217;t.  It may also be possible that the character encoding could have been screwed up somewhere and some of the servers handle it and others don&#8217;t.  That might explain why refreshing a random number of times gets you logged in.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m just guessing at what the problem might be and the point is moot since I can&#8217;t do anything about it anyway.  I hope that the issue gets sorted out for you soon.</p>
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		<title>By: icp</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21807</link>
		<dc:creator>icp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dearest app103: show me where to pay for twitter and my client would consider it.

If twitter do not want to or cannot provide support to free users, fine, remove the support link, direct people to GetSatisfaction or elsewhere.  But by providing and encouraging people to file requests through the ZenDesk site they are tacitly if not explicitly saying that they have some sort of support process, just not one that mere mortals understand.

And as far as free goes: many people are providing value back to twitter by developing tools atop the twitter API.  Developers get marginally better support for development issues, but only marginally.  Where&#039;s the value in return?  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest app103: show me where to pay for twitter and my client would consider it.</p>
<p>If twitter do not want to or cannot provide support to free users, fine, remove the support link, direct people to GetSatisfaction or elsewhere.  But by providing and encouraging people to file requests through the ZenDesk site they are tacitly if not explicitly saying that they have some sort of support process, just not one that mere mortals understand.</p>
<p>And as far as free goes: many people are providing value back to twitter by developing tools atop the twitter API.  Developers get marginally better support for development issues, but only marginally.  Where&#8217;s the value in return?</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21808</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>app103 customer in the dictionary is also 

One who consumes goods and services 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>app103 customer in the dictionary is also </p>
<p>One who consumes goods and services</p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21810</link>
		<dc:creator>centernetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;
the price of a service does not matter when it comes to service. and as i noted, it would be DAMN easy for them to fix the issue quickly and cheaply. it just appears on the public side that they would rather be in the ny times and on charlie rose.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
always take care of your house first
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the price of a service does not matter when it comes to service. and as i noted, it would be DAMN easy for them to fix the issue quickly and cheaply. it just appears on the public side that they would rather be in the ny times and on charlie rose.
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always take care of your house first</p>
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		<title>By: centernetworks</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21811</link>
		<dc:creator>centernetworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;
wow january - that doesn&#039;t leave me much hope
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
today i will try contacting their investors to get their take.
&lt;/p&gt;
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wow january &#8211; that doesn&#8217;t leave me much hope
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today i will try contacting their investors to get their take.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamar Weinberg</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21812</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamar Weinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they&#039;re overwhelmed and too busy, they need to consider hiring more manpower.  With the economy in disarray, people would lunge for the opportunity to work at Twitter. 

It&#039;s a free service that was successful because of people like you and me, LoneWolf.  Twitter shouldn&#039;t forget about us.

I had a ticket open for 4 months before I received support, and once they did address it, they didn&#039;t even address it to my satisfaction. (Allen, with regards to the comment below, a 2 month turnaround is lucky!)  To make matters worse, apparently Twitter switched its customer support helpdesk two times since I submitted the ticket, so I had to keep resbmitting it.  I learned that I should store a local copy of all my complaints since then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they&#8217;re overwhelmed and too busy, they need to consider hiring more manpower.  With the economy in disarray, people would lunge for the opportunity to work at Twitter. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a free service that was successful because of people like you and me, LoneWolf.  Twitter shouldn&#8217;t forget about us.</p>
<p>I had a ticket open for 4 months before I received support, and once they did address it, they didn&#8217;t even address it to my satisfaction. (Allen, with regards to the comment below, a 2 month turnaround is lucky!)  To make matters worse, apparently Twitter switched its customer support helpdesk two times since I submitted the ticket, so I had to keep resbmitting it.  I learned that I should store a local copy of all my complaints since then.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21813</link>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be very surprised if one of the founders of Twitter were to address a user&#039;s customer service issue.  

These platforms are great to use, but we have to step back I guess and remember that they are also free, and so as they say, sometimes you &quot;get what you pay for &quot; in terms of service I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be very surprised if one of the founders of Twitter were to address a user&#8217;s customer service issue.  </p>
<p>These platforms are great to use, but we have to step back I guess and remember that they are also free, and so as they say, sometimes you &#8220;get what you pay for &#8221; in terms of service I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Leafygreen</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21817</link>
		<dc:creator>Leafygreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had the same issue with them.  My email server crashed so my emails must have been bounced back to them so they say that box doesn&#039;t exist.  Shouldn&#039;t have been but it was.  I can&#039;t get them to reply to my ticket either.

I&#039;ve changed my email with twitter to be a different user on the same domain and it works fine.

They need to have better customer service. that&#039;s for sure.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the same issue with them.  My email server crashed so my emails must have been bounced back to them so they say that box doesn&#8217;t exist.  Shouldn&#8217;t have been but it was.  I can&#8217;t get them to reply to my ticket either.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve changed my email with twitter to be a different user on the same domain and it works fine.</p>
<p>They need to have better customer service. that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: LoneWolf</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-support-fail-whale/comment-page-#comment-21818</link>
		<dc:creator>LoneWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what kind of work you do Allen, but figuring out what is causing a bug in a complex network of servers and software is not &quot;DAMN easy&quot;.  There are currently something like 7 million people signed up for Twitter.  Things that affect a single user have lower priority than things that affect 100&#039;s or 1000&#039;s or even 1000000&#039;s.

I agree that they could hire more support people -- but who will train them?  The current support people who are already overwhelmed.

I agree that they should be more forth-coming in their communication with users who submit problems.  

They didn&#039;t plan for Twitter to become what it has.  Hopefully they&#039;ll be able to catch up to where they are soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what kind of work you do Allen, but figuring out what is causing a bug in a complex network of servers and software is not &#8220;DAMN easy&#8221;.  There are currently something like 7 million people signed up for Twitter.  Things that affect a single user have lower priority than things that affect 100&#8217;s or 1000&#8217;s or even 1000000&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I agree that they could hire more support people &#8212; but who will train them?  The current support people who are already overwhelmed.</p>
<p>I agree that they should be more forth-coming in their communication with users who submit problems.  </p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t plan for Twitter to become what it has.  Hopefully they&#8217;ll be able to catch up to where they are soon.</p>
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