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	<title>Comments on: URL Shorteners List and Why It&#8217;s a Mistake for Twitter</title>
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		<title>By: Tricia</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-113370</link>
		<dc:creator>Tricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your idea re URL shortening - just replacing with &quot;Link&quot; or similar. I hate not knowing where a link is going to take me. So how do we get twitter to change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your idea re URL shortening &#8211; just replacing with &#8220;Link&#8221; or similar. I hate not knowing where a link is going to take me. So how do we get twitter to change?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-50774</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 08:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a heavy Twitter user (yet), but goto.st is short fast and easy to use. Thanks. If I have any feedback I will certainly pass it along, meanwhile the simplicity is its strength.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a heavy Twitter user (yet), but goto.st is short fast and easy to use. Thanks. If I have any feedback I will certainly pass it along, meanwhile the simplicity is its strength.</p>
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		<title>By: fab</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-40056</link>
		<dc:creator>fab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it a bad thing? It&#039;s the best way to fit those 141 character links into a 140 limit. Seriously, don&#039;t complain about the little things, sure twitter should have one themselves, but for now, it&#039;s the best way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it a bad thing? It&#8217;s the best way to fit those 141 character links into a 140 limit. Seriously, don&#8217;t complain about the little things, sure twitter should have one themselves, but for now, it&#8217;s the best way.</p>
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		<title>By: haqu</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-34947</link>
		<dc:creator>haqu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After trying to use several popular URL shorteners, I decided to make my own. It is fast and clean, with simple stats.

http://go2.st

Feel free to suggest new features and improvements (twitter: @haqu)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After trying to use several popular URL shorteners, I decided to make my own. It is fast and clean, with simple stats.</p>
<p><a href="http://go2.st" rel="nofollow">http://go2.st</a></p>
<p>Feel free to suggest new features and improvements (twitter: @haqu)</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-31056</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 13:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want Twitter changing my use of the 140 characters.  If I have a link that is too long, I will shorten it.  If I have a branded URL to include, though, I don&#039;t want to lose that branding as a result of Twitter replacing the URL with a generic-looking shortened URL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want Twitter changing my use of the 140 characters.  If I have a link that is too long, I will shorten it.  If I have a branded URL to include, though, I don&#8217;t want to lose that branding as a result of Twitter replacing the URL with a generic-looking shortened URL.</p>
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		<title>By: JunAtWork</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-24505</link>
		<dc:creator>JunAtWork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 19:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twitter shouldn&#039;t attempt to shorten URLs for its users at all.  It&#039;s users&#039; decision as how they would use the 240-character space, and they don&#039;t need someone trying to play smart to change it (and actually might be a dumb decision).

For some users, the URL presents something to readers as well as other parts of the message. I wouldn&#039;t expect someone to change my message from &quot;I&#039;m furious&quot; to &quot;I&#039;m mad&quot;.

It&#039;s simply manipulating users&#039; message without asking and a betray to users&#039; trust.  If this continues, I&#039;ll simply stopping going there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter shouldn&#8217;t attempt to shorten URLs for its users at all.  It&#8217;s users&#8217; decision as how they would use the 240-character space, and they don&#8217;t need someone trying to play smart to change it (and actually might be a dumb decision).</p>
<p>For some users, the URL presents something to readers as well as other parts of the message. I wouldn&#8217;t expect someone to change my message from &#8220;I&#8217;m furious&#8221; to &#8220;I&#8217;m mad&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simply manipulating users&#8217; message without asking and a betray to users&#8217; trust.  If this continues, I&#8217;ll simply stopping going there.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall Krause</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-24076</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall Krause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I should add that another reason my proposal above is the ideal solution over URL shorteners, is because it gives end-user the ability to examine each link beforehand (hovering reveals the actual URL in the status bar) before clicking it. This keeps the user both in-control and informed, which is the way the Web should work. Hiding information is poor design practice, and does not promote a security and safety conscious online community.

The alternative is to use the &quot;msplinks&quot; strategy, taking users to an interstitial page warning them about the dangers of following exernal links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I should add that another reason my proposal above is the ideal solution over URL shorteners, is because it gives end-user the ability to examine each link beforehand (hovering reveals the actual URL in the status bar) before clicking it. This keeps the user both in-control and informed, which is the way the Web should work. Hiding information is poor design practice, and does not promote a security and safety conscious online community.</p>
<p>The alternative is to use the &#8220;msplinks&#8221; strategy, taking users to an interstitial page warning them about the dangers of following exernal links.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall Krause</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-24074</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall Krause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Twitter should not be automatically converting links to any intermediate sites (except those under the control of Twitter). From a legal standpoint, I would imagine there would even be some liability issues.

Technically speaking, there isn&#039;t even a need for URL shortening. Just replace the displayed URL with some generic inline text or a graphic such as &quot;[Link]&quot; and count it as a specific number of letters. Although the reader will not see the URL in the tweet, the HREF attribute will still operate accordingly.

Simple solutions are best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Twitter should not be automatically converting links to any intermediate sites (except those under the control of Twitter). From a legal standpoint, I would imagine there would even be some liability issues.</p>
<p>Technically speaking, there isn&#8217;t even a need for URL shortening. Just replace the displayed URL with some generic inline text or a graphic such as &#8220;[Link]&#8221; and count it as a specific number of letters. Although the reader will not see the URL in the tweet, the HREF attribute will still operate accordingly.</p>
<p>Simple solutions are best.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-1#comment-23103</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should look in to http://1url.com

They have a pretty cool Twitter bookmarklet. They&#039;re also the shortest &quot;.com&quot; service out there (that I&#039;m aware of at least, and I&#039;ve searched through MANY services).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should look in to <a href="http://1url.com" rel="nofollow">http://1url.com</a></p>
<p>They have a pretty cool Twitter bookmarklet. They&#8217;re also the shortest &#8220;.com&#8221; service out there (that I&#8217;m aware of at least, and I&#8217;ve searched through MANY services).</p>
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		<title>By: Shorten This</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-#comment-14251</link>
		<dc:creator>Shorten This</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-14251</guid>
		<description>Because it&#039;s mine, everyone should use http://lilurl.us

It&#039;s been around forever, it&#039;s free, there&#039;s stats, you can choose a URL if it&#039;s available, etc. etc. etc.

That being said, and even with me being a saint, Twitter should definitely do it themselves. It takes no time, and next to no smarts, to make a ahortening service. The code is everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because it&#8217;s mine, everyone should use <a href="http://lilurl.us" rel="nofollow">http://lilurl.us</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s been around forever, it&#8217;s free, there&#8217;s stats, you can choose a URL if it&#8217;s available, etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>That being said, and even with me being a saint, Twitter should definitely do it themselves. It takes no time, and next to no smarts, to make a ahortening service. The code is everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelDotNet</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-#comment-14524</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelDotNet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-14524</guid>
		<description>&lt;a href=http://www.myturl.com/&gt;My tUrl&lt;/a&gt; is free and open. As it says on the page:

T url was created as a GPL&#039;d version of TinyURL.

So they could just use the software and host it internally if they wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href=http://www.myturl.com/>My tUrl is free and open. As it says on the page:</p>
<p>T url was created as a GPL&#8217;d version of TinyURL.</p>
<p>So they could just use the software and host it internally if they wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: markus</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-#comment-15141</link>
		<dc:creator>markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree - why would they make themselves so vulnerable when the technology to create their own version takes about 5 minutes to setup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree &#8211; why would they make themselves so vulnerable when the technology to create their own version takes about 5 minutes to setup.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-#comment-15142</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan twitter has a 140 character limit and shortening web address saves space. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TinyURL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan twitter has a 140 character limit and shortening web address saves space. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TinyURL" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TinyURL</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-#comment-15158</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds like a nice fit for one of my projects Allen, Its not up yet but is a web site/web service for short urls called links.im 

I really don&#039;t know why they just don&#039;t build it themselves as it took me 5 mins to know it up in Rails. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds like a nice fit for one of my projects Allen, Its not up yet but is a web site/web service for short urls called links.im </p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t know why they just don&#8217;t build it themselves as it took me 5 mins to know it up in Rails.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Schawbel</title>
		<link>http://www.centernetworks.com/url-shorteners-twitter/comment-page-#comment-15159</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Schawbel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not into this short url thing for linking between sites.  I am only inclined or pursuaded to acknowledge short url domain names.  

What are your reasons for why short url&#039;s for links would be appropriate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not into this short url thing for linking between sites.  I am only inclined or pursuaded to acknowledge short url domain names.  </p>
<p>What are your reasons for why short url&#8217;s for links would be appropriate?</p>
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