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Web Apps Customer Service Face Off!
In all of the interviews I have conducted, everyone believes customer service is vital to their business. And I believe it is crucial as well. After my documented experiences with Technorati, I decided to randomly pick 10 current web apps and put them to the test! One week ago, I sent each one a very basic e-mail for support. I gave each one a week to reply and below are the responses I received with my comments and a score for each one. Some did well, some did ok, some did poor. Let’s check out the winners and the losers!
The tested apps are in alpha order: Digg, Dogster, Edgeio, Faces, Flickr, MySpace, Skype, Technorati, Youtube
So here are the results! In best to worst order:
For my inquiry they provided a form with the following confirmation after submission:
Woof Woof! We got your message.
We’ll definitely be reading it and get back to you within 72 hours (weekend may take a little longer).Thanks so much for using and loving Dogster.
Bark, bark, bark!
Dogster: for the love of dog!
And their reply came in about 36 hours and included the following:
Allen,
We welcome all dogs from Heinz 57 mutts to pedigreed show dogs.
As for terriers? Here’s our breed list:
1. Airedale Terrier
2. American Hairless Terrier
9. Boston TerrierBoston Terrier is right there in the number 9 position (alphabetically).
Thanks for loving Dogster. We love you right back!
Woof!
-dogster-
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Dogster & Catster: where no one knows you’re a human
dogster.com / catster.comThe following message was sent by “Allen”
on Sat, 7 Oct 2006 14:34:00 -0700. > Hi - Can you tell me if any kind of dog can be registered on dogster? I have > a small boston terrier and wondered if this type is allowed.
>
> Thank you, Allen
Comments: I appreciate both the confirmation of my submission and the funny, witty reply I received. The reply came in a reasonable amount of time. Great job - woof woof!
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Only offered an e-mail address for inquiries, no form. Reply came within 24 hours and it is below:
Anyone can sign on to digg.com. There are topics for everyone weather
you’re interested in technology or world news. If you have any other
questions, please email us.Thank you,
-The Digg Support Team.
allen wrote:
> Hi - can you tell me if anyone can register to use digg? I am not a techy but would be interested in rating stories in the business columns and sections. Do I need to be a web developer to sign up? Thanks, Allen
Comments: Digg would have been number one except for two small concerns. One is that support is only offered via e-mail, no form. Second is their use of the word “weather” - in this case, it should have been “whether” - so I deduct half a point for these small issues. Great job overall from Digg!
Skype provided an easy way to contact them. I am not including their reply because it was very, very exhaustive. Suffice to say they answered my question and in case their solution did not work, a way to escalate my issue.
Provided a form with a confirmation that showed what I submitted. I like that kind of confirmation. Reply came in about 24 hours and is listed below.
Yes, that would be an appropriate thing to list on edgeio.
On Oct 7, 2006, at 3:46 PM,
wrote: > To: (removed)
> From: (removed)
> Subject: [support]
>
> Someone left feedback on edgeio with the following information:
>
> email address: (removed)
> edgeio user name:
>
> ip address: (removed)
> cookied user name:
> cookied location: 0
>
> web page: http://www.edgeio.com/
>
> subject: [support]
>
> [description]
>
> ———————————————————————-> —
> hi - can you tell me if i can list old magazines on edgeio? i found a ton of old magazines like Forbes and Fortune and stuff and want > to get rid of them. Thanks, AllenMatt Kaufman
Comments: Good job on the quick reply, and for including my original question inside the reply. Points deducted for listing all of the techy information inside the reply. As a mainstream application, there is no reason to include things like ip address, cookied user name, location, etc. The average Internet user would have no idea what those things are and would probably only confuse the situation.
Faces provided an easy way to contact them. Their reply and my original question is listed below.
Hi,
This email has been sent to help you with your problem at faces.com. The problem or question you had is repeated below. If you have further queries please return to the help page.Currently we have a fairly small upload size restriction on files size - which only allows 8meg at a time - can you split the podcats up into 2 or 3 parts perhaps?
Thanks, Support
www.faces.com
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The question you had is:
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Member Id : Not available
Received : 10/7/2006 5:17:46 PM
Name : Not available
Email : removed
Subject : Site Problems
Comment : hi - can i upload my podcasts to faces and then put a player on my web site? they are like 20mb size and like 30 minutes each.
thanks, allen
Url : Not specifiedUserAgent & IP Address Info
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UserAgent : Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
Ip Address : removed
Comments: Reply came in 4 days, which I guess is still reasonable. I would have liked a confirmation on when to expect the reply. Also - they have included this technical information which has no need to be included and can confuse non-geeks. In the email they state that if I have further queries (whats a query) to return to the help page. Where is the help page and why can’t they include a link to it? A small spelling error “podcats”. They did a good job of appearing human and overall a pretty good job.
I had the hardest time finding a way to contact support on Yelp. Once I found it, they “accepted” my request that I submitted. Their reply came within 24 hours and is listed below.
Yes you can review anything with an address, including CVS!
Jeremy
See all my reviews…
http://jeremy.yelp.com(removed) wrote:
> Can people really write reviews on anything? I saw some reviews on drugstores and wanted to write a review about my favorite CVS location but wondered if that is ok. Please let me know. Thanks, Allen
Comments: Reply came quickly and was well formed. I am deducting points for not being able to find the support form.
Flickr provided a reply in about 36 hours and it is below.
Hello,
Thanks for your question.
Please see this answer in our FAQ:
http://www.flickr.com/help/limits/#28
Regards, Monish
Comments: Why couldn’t they just copy the answer into the email. Why should I do the work to go find it? It would have been appreciated if they would have included the applicable FAQ and then perhaps a link to the full FAQ. In addition, they should have included my original request.
MySpace accepted my inquiry (written while looking at HORRIBLE banner ads that flash so much, I think I have a disease now) and then replied in 36 hours with the following:
Hello,
If you can’t create an account, we recommend deleting your browser’s cookies and temporary internet files and then close all your browsers and try signing up again.(Note: Mac users should use Safari or Firefox.)
Make sure you didn’t add any spaces at the end of your email address or verification code.
If someone is using your email address please send us an email from that email address to verify you are the legal owner and we will be able to delete that fake profile.
If you are shown an error message when attempting to create an account, please copy and paste it into the body of your reply email.
If this does not answer your question, please click:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=misc.contactThank you,
MySpace.com
Comments: My inquiry was not included so to some extent I have no idea what they are replying to. In addition, their reply was an automated reply that seems to have multiple answers so I have no idea what actually applies to me. And then they have the nerve to state that if these solutions did not answer my question, I can go back and look at a horrible banner ad and try to fill in the exact same form again.
I am not going to paste in their reply because all they did was send me every FAQ they have. I asked if my mother could view the videos using WebTV. Nothing in their 200 line reply offered me anything. They told me basically if none of these 50 suggestions work, I should e-mail them AGAIN and they will look into my question. So who knows how long that entire process would take. I guess all of it is moot now that they are billionaires. Oh well, maybe they can buy some support staff now with their money.
Unfortunately, Technorati is at the bottom of this list. I really like their service and so this upsets me but I must report the truth. They did not reply to any of my inquiries. So there is nothing for me to include.
(updated) - I was finally able to contact Liz (the vlog woman) via her Flickr account because there are no contact emails on the Technorati site. She was able to get their customer service person to answer my questions and both her and the cs person apologized and stated that they are swamped with cs e-mails. My suggestion is to provide an immediate automated reply stating that. I would have been a lot more relaxed with them had they said they were swamped. But to receive nothing is to believe they don’t care.
So I am willing to upgrade their score:
(I guess that is still passing in some universities)






actually I don’t rate digg.com replying.
I have reported the same bug about 5 times and they still have not fixed it. also they never replied about a contact to do with a domain I have diggcard.com…. but i expect that went to thier legal department :p
Without seeing the request you sent in, this is useless.
Chris - actually 5 of them do list what I sent in - so the request is listed. In addition, I think this makes my point even stronger. If you wait a week to get a reply, and then its just this open reply, I have to remember what I sent in. All of these should have included my initial request.
I’ve actually never emailed Flickr since I opened the account in late June 2005 (woah!), all the support I ever needed was handled through their forums, where staff members reply to all issues.
Once I had a problem with my provider and accessing the flickr website, so I submitted a traceroute there, someone looked at it and we eventually resolved it. I used the same forum to have them fix a bug in their system which accepts emails from my mobile phone (my service provider includes banner images inside the message), and they got it fixed.
I think in general what is great about a forum is the openess with issues and everyone coming together. If there is a problem no one will tell you to “shut up” or “email support” (along the lines of, please don’t talk about it in public).
There are staff members on there helping, but also “regular” users. And they have a search function om there which seems to be able to find relevant stuff, so most of the time you get instant help from them, which is pretty nice.
In regard to Technorati - nice that you found someone to talk to. I just reviewed the email I received from their ticket system, it dates back to 20th June, 2006 - the ticket#s are 34378 and 34379, if you can give them a hint. ;-))
This is one of the worst articles I have read on the web. You did not ask the same question to each site so the whole test was failed from the beginning. Read an issue of Consumer Reports moron. You will see that they test every product the same so they can compare apples to apples.
I have to agree about having a control question but overall, an interesting read. That YouTube reply really riled me, and I didn’t even send the mail!
Thanks Allen for including Dogster. Since day one I’ve felt that anyone that writes in deserves a thoughtful response. Of course that become challenging when you get hundreds of emails a week, but each writer is a potential life-long member (if they are not one already ;) and deserves full respect.
I went back and found the outgoing response that you reviewed, which did include your original question. I’m not squibbling, i just thought I’d add it here for anyone interested.
—————————————————— on Sat, 7 Oct 2006 14:34:00 -0700.
The following message was sent by “Allen”
> Hi - Can you tell me if any kind of dog can be registered on dogster? I have
> a small boston terrier and wondered if this type is allowed.
>
> Thank you,
> Allen
>
> Allen
> xxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com
Thank you for your feedback. With the billions of articles on the web, could this really be one of the worst? I mean there have got to be enough worse to make this not specifically one of the worst… or maybe it is - who knows!
I actually have a subscription to consumer reports - and technically I did review each one the same - I sent a basic e-mail about their service to their support department.
Thanks for letting me know your opinion - I appreciate all opinions - whether or not they agree with mine.
Ah yes, apples to apples.
What “same question” could he have asked every application listed? They’re all different services!
When testing different brands of a car, for example, you’re still testing cars across the board.
From what I read, most of the questions were “Can anybody sign up for this service, or do I have to be ****?”. Seems pretty fair to me. In any case the questions were all simple basic questions about the service. The point here was not the question, the point was how/when they responded.
A pretty fair comparison, imo. It sounds to me like you’re offended.
I’m so happy for you that you actually got a response…I’ve waited a week only to find out today after multiple requests that they just have an automated system that detects keywords and sends you a generic response stating the obvious listed in their FAQ. I’ve been locked out of my account for a week.
I get a message from Tom last week on the login page (this has been verified, it’s legitimate) stating that my page has been “Phished” and I would need to change the password. So I changed the password and went about my business for a few minutes and then logged out. Later that night I went to log into my account and the new password did not work. I tried the old password, it didn’t work either, so I clicked on forgot password…I entered the email that it is registered under. It stated that my email was not found.
My music page is still there in limbo with my new album only 2 weeks old without a way to contact or hear from fans at all. MySpace has ruined my reputation and has forced me to create a new page and lose every friend. I can’t even delete the old page.
I would have to say they deserve an F- for no effort whatsoever, and I couldn’t care less attitude. A machine that sends an automated response from their FAQ is not customer service. I am not an idiot, and I would not have written customer service if the information or help I needed was in their useless FAQ!
I would suggest that MySpace offered a pay service to access real people in their customer service department for high end profiles.